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Re: After Chaos
Reply #2470 - Jun 21st, 2017, 5:48pm
 
Quote from Jeanette on Jun 20th, 2017, 11:33am:
You mentioned services. Before the Happening the Texas Spirits had power plants along their railroad to supply power to the train stations, railroad crossings and other essential structures. Selling remaining power is not a problem and those power plants were likely connected to the local power grid. So what happened when people stopped trusting Spirits in general? Did they disconnect and began to get power elsewhere?

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If WWIII was to be a limited war, no nukes were used or were used in a different way than anticipated. A Nuke exploded in space will create an EMP. An EMP would take down a nation like the USA technologically and economically in a matter of seconds.
 
Thus an EMP hitting the USA during the Happening would take down the (electronic) Railroads; a majority of motorcycles, cars and trucks; Power Generation Stations, and anything with transistorized and/or ICs Electronics. There are things that are immune or semi-immune and sensitive devices can be stored in EMP Proof Enclosures called Faraday Cages. Some of these Faraday Cages can be a big as underground Bunkers used in various towns using abandoned military and lab bases (like in the RPG).
 
See #3 on: http://www.offthegridnews.com/grid-threats/5-surprising-items-that-will-survive- an-end-of-the-world-emp-attack/  
See “What can I do?” on: http://www.thesurvivalistblog.net/emp-electromagnetic-pulse/  
 
More Links:
http://risingsbunkers.com/can-protect-emp/
http://www.risingsbunkers.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/FaradayBox-HowTo.png
https://sunshineworks.com/pages/emp-bunker-underground-shelter-or-above-ground-t
ruprotect-ready-bunkers
 
Thus a lot of things can be rescued and saved. I need to discuss with Hondo about something being buried not in a Faraday Cage being EMP Proof or EMP Resistant.
 
Older devices like cars with point ignition and carburetors, mechanical diesel engines (where fuel is mechanically pumped and injected and not electronically), tube radios and TV, are EMP Proof or Resistant. In the cars with Point Ignition, only the condenser and ignition coil would need to be replaced. Alternators and Generators in both cars and trucks need to be replaced.
 
Thus this creates a scenario, the USA got hit with an EMP device during the Happening and a limited WWIII. Other nations are hit as well but some fair better than others because Power was always an issue and the people managed to do without. But with communications failing, the international stock market begins to fall apart and the economy of many nations fail at once. Battles will be fought on the ground, and in many cases – like in that famous battle in WWII – hand to hand combat.*
 
If the Texas Spirits were wise enough to protect, hide or otherwise defend their equipment from an EMP, then they can rebuild quickly. The Problem Here is area they serve but are out of their reach getting hit with an EMP and it becomes a “Lights Out Situation” for them. In trying to protect the core of what they have, many will be left out without protection or power. This would make them ripe for another Spirit Group come in and help them out for a price. And here the problems begin.
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Reply #2471 - Jun 21st, 2017, 7:32pm
 
I'm not new to the concept of an EMP attack. This one of the problems I considered. The Texas Spirits have two options in preventing nukes from being launched or detonated: prevent the nuke from detonating by disabling it or teleport it to space, away from earth.
 
While the Texas Spirits are able to fix stuff, they prefer that nothing is broken in the first place.
 
There are things the Texas Spirits can do little to nothing about. Let's focus on that.
 
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Reply #2472 - Jun 21st, 2017, 9:21pm
 
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There are 3 ways to make an EMP, and one of those ways involve a nuke. One other way involves the Sun and its Coronal Ejection but our Van Allen Radiation Belts protect us from that. It has killed off many satellites though. The third is an E-Bomb which the military developed in the 1980s, and it can wipe out a city's electronics. Deviations of this device on a smaller scale is being used by some police departments to disable cars.
 
The Texas Spirits need to understand that nearly everything is broken and needs to be fixed. If they got stuff stashed away, fine - that is not a problem. But like the early posts I posted up of junk yards of trains and buses, if recycled and refurbished, could be a major Boon for them. For instance: recycling an old diesel bus and converting it to electric power, then they have an electric mass transportation vehicle that can go where trains can not because there are no rails going there. Same with trucks and personal transportation.
 
The one thing the Texas Spirits need to do is to look at the communities and find out why they are pro or con Spirit relationships. And then they can start or restart rebuilding relations with those communities. But the problem is, there is a lot that needs to be done like ending slavery, curing mutants if possible, ending crime syndicates and underground markets, expanding trade routes and free markets. They can do that, then their acceptance by other communities would be more welcomed.
 
Currently I am working on a Fernando/Teri/Moro post which will be sent by email for changes and approval. Until then you should have some interaction with the Housemother and the others observing General Jastrey's men put together a standard military feast for all involved, and whether or not Denver thinks it is a waste or not. Things to look out for is that they inspect each item before it gets into the pot. If anything is found to be bad, spoiled or can be questioned as such, it will be taken to a pit and burned. Though there is a menu, there will be more items than what is on the menu. Some may think that is a waste. others may not. More than necessary amount of food will be made, as what is not eaten will be packed up as a meals for the drivers for the long drive and for some - breakfast. What would Denver think without knowing all the facts?
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Reply #2473 - Jun 21st, 2017, 10:33pm
 
If you really want an EMP for the back-story, we could say that the Texas Spirits were busy and had to prioritize.
 
All buses have probably been restored since the Texas Spirits can use them. Are the train cars freight cars or passenger cars? They can put freight cars to use but not the passenger cars since their passenger trains are special built. The problem with converting diesel buses to electric is how do you power them? Batteries will only provide a short range and it is dangerous to outfit a regular bus with a ZPM. A new idea now came to me and so I will work on it. As for a financial boom, Zero Point Energy (their power company) is their biggest cash cow followed by the Carlton Railroad.
 
Hondo said why humans are anti Spirit. The Nobody said there isn't a cure for mutations. Therefore I did not seriously peruse that though in the Acorn Café I introduced a doctor who was attempting to find a cure. With their railroad they already have a means of trade going. One thing I considered is, during and after the hyperinflation, Zero Point Energy charged their customers the pre Happening rates.
 
I think it is well established that Denver is such an extreme tree hugger that the Spirits seem wasteful in comparison. We can only use that gag so much.
 
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Reply #2474 - Jun 22nd, 2017, 6:42pm
 
Quote from Jeanette on Jun 21st, 2017, 10:33pm:
If you really want an EMP for the back-story, we could say that the Texas Spirits were busy and had to prioritize.

 
I’m just stating what can be the start of a global demise on this level. I’m not making this into a back story, only you as the moderator can make this so if you want. In truth, if this would have been a nuclear war, even a limited one, Elsa would be loving it – Nuclear Winter, no summers for the past several decades as the globe turns into a snow ball. Humans did survive the last Ice Age, they would survive this Ice Age.
 
 
Quote from Jeanette on Jun 21st, 2017, 10:33pm:
All buses have probably been restored since the Texas Spirits can use them. Are the train cars freight cars or passenger cars? They can put freight cars to use but not the passenger cars since their passenger trains are special built. The problem with converting diesel buses to electric is how do you power them? Batteries will only provide a short range and it is dangerous to outfit a regular bus with a ZPM. A new idea now came to me and so I will work on it. As for a financial boom, Zero Point Energy (their power company) is their biggest cash cow followed by the Carlton Railroad.

 
Batteries and solar power would be the solution here in the RPG. NYC uses Hybrid Buses but I’m not in agreement to that as they are still diesel engines, though smaller and running a pair of generators to run motors at the wheels. Here are some examples I found in a YouTube Video… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yhj4-pwi0sg
 
#2 WalMart Future Truck – “Turbine Electric” meaning that sucker uses a tiny jet to power a generator for the Electric Drive System!
#3 Future Bus by Mercedes Benz is Electric
#4 Willis Transparent LCD Bus; similar articulated (folding) body style to the hybrid electrics used in NYC, but these are fully electric.
#6 The Transit Elevated Bus (in China), all Electric with Solar Power Charging.  But the one model they were road testing broke down and the Chinese gov’t left it where it is as since it is elevated, it does not block the roadway. Just as long as no one smashes into it, it should be fine and one day they will fix it and haul it back to the factory. It’s a great idea that failed in execution because of something that was over looked.
#8 Nauya Mini Bus – Also all Electric with Solar Charging. Though a Commuter bus this is more geared to a school bus or small communities with a lower ridership.
 
All the Electric/Solar Charging vehicles here can be charged at night at a generating station. With #3 and #4, they also employ Wireless Charging at the bus stops, taking a few minutes charging time as passengers load and unload from the bus.
 
Diesel Buses have a range of 500 to 800 miles, depending on the size of the bus’ fuel tank. When I went to see my Ex from Hell in her school (Cornel U @ Ithica NY), the Greyhound I was on never stopped for refueling from NYC. The driver did take two breaks for himself along the trip but never was the bus refueled. For me it was a 250 mile trip with 8 stops from NYC to Ithica. An Electric Bus would do half that of a regular bus – 400 miles. That is still impressive, and if you throw in Wireless Charging per stop, you extend the range even further.  
 
 
Quote from Jeanette on Jun 21st, 2017, 10:33pm:
Hondo said why humans are anti Spirit. The Nobody said there isn't a cure for mutations. Therefore I did not seriously peruse that though in the Acorn Café I introduced a doctor who was attempting to find a cure. With their railroad they already have a means of trade going. One thing I considered is, during and after the hyperinflation, Zero Point Energy charged their customers the pre Happening rates.

 
Mutations without an unseen or unknown cause can only be cure through Time Travel, where one has to go back in Time and look at the generations and look where the mutation was introduced and then remove it then and there. Mutations with a known cause (work done by Lab Towns creating the Wessens) are curable if it us cured on the first Gen Wessen. It will not work on later Gen Wessens because it is passed down from generation to generation and only the first Gen can be cured like this.
 
The electrical grid and trains (using that power) can only be done like this if the area establishes their own currency. This you already established with Charlton in the very beginning.
 
 
Quote from Jeanette on Jun 21st, 2017, 10:33pm:
I think it is well established that Denver is such an extreme tree hugger that the Spirits seem wasteful in comparison. We can only use that gag so much.

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Considering how much of a Tight-Ass Denver is, she has a lot to learn. She is not one who has undergone such an education to know the difference. So she needs to get off her high horse and get an education or learn the hard way by being knocked off that high horse. She cannot judge because she does not know how to. All she is doing is point and accuse, for that is all she knows who to do. If it were Fernando, he’d throw her back to when man was getting food at the end of a spear and tell her to go get dinner. If she refuses to kill something, then she cannot judge others.
 
Most butcher shops have a “Nose to Tail” program where they whole animal is used to make food, but people are stupid to accept that gelatin comes from ground up hooves, sausages comes from intestines and ground up meat, cold-cuts comes from organs (liver, spleen, lungs, etc.) and very few will eat bone marrow. Throw in some nice Blood Pudding, and they all want to run to the Roman Vomitorium. Out of respect for the Sheep & Goat Wessens, I’ll keep the Haggis off the menu.
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Reply #2475 - Jun 22nd, 2017, 8:14pm
 
Quote from Fernando on Jun 22nd, 2017, 6:42pm:
I’m just stating what can be the start of a global demise on this level. I’m not making this into a back story, only you as the moderator can make this so if you want. In truth, if this would have been a nuclear war, even a limited one, Elsa would be loving it – Nuclear Winter, no summers for the past several decades as the globe turns into a snow ball. Humans did survive the last Ice Age, they would survive this Ice Age.

Given that our current situation is more from the Texas Spirits interfering with the Happening than the Happening its self, the Texas Spirits had to be successful in interfering.
 
Quote from Fernando on Jun 22nd, 2017, 6:42pm:
Batteries and solar power would be the solution here in the RPG.

I was thinking of using technology the Texas Spirits would have.
 
Quote from Fernando on Jun 22nd, 2017, 6:42pm:
Mutations without an unseen or unknown cause can only be cure through Time Travel, where one has to go back in Time and look at the generations and look where the mutation was introduced and then remove it then and there. Mutations with a known cause (work done by Lab Towns creating the Wessens) are curable if it us cured on the first Gen Wessen. It will not work on later Gen Wessens because it is passed down from generation to generation and only the first Gen can be cured like this.

If you want to go that direction, fine. For the Haibane, I'm staying with what was established in Haibane Renmei, there is no cure outside of perhaps surgery.
 
Quote from Fernando on Jun 22nd, 2017, 6:42pm:
The electrical grid and trains (using that power) can only be done like this if the area establishes their own currency. This you already established with Charlton in the very beginning.

Why can't Zero Point Energy customers pay for electricity using the currency of their respective nation? Their U.S. customers, for example, would pay with U.S. dollars.
 
Quote from Fernando on Jun 22nd, 2017, 6:42pm:
If it were Fernando, he’d throw her back to when man was getting food at the end of a spear and tell her to go get dinner. If she refuses to kill something, then she cannot judge others.

Killing something is not the issue. Wasting what she had to kill is.
 
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Reply #2476 - Jun 30th, 2017, 3:06pm
 
Due to unforeseen circumstances, I'm going to take a minimum 2 weeks off to deal with things in life that has a higher priority.
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Reply #2477 - Jul 14th, 2017, 7:26pm
 
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I write Jeanette's journal as the story happens so that when the time comes for Jeanette to write her journal, the entry is ready.
 
I lost part of today's entry and it is a long day, more than fifty pages. I went back to where the journal ended to rewrite it. I lost what I was rewriting. I'm not sure if I should go back and write it a third time or screw it and say that Jeanette lost a page from her journal.
 
This is what has survived:
 
May 7, 2066
Confused about religion in Charlton. Do Gentile Christians live in Charlton? If not, something's off. My interpretation: Charlton is a Torah state, not a Jewish state.
Wesens, Marvin and his cousins (La La and Li Li), join the party.
Zoey ran off. Moro locates Zoey on her mobile device.

 
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Reply #2478 - Jul 14th, 2017, 10:02pm
 
Jeanette, and everyone in her "group," walks by as the military is engaged in outdoor cooking for a large group.
 
"I imagine this is different from your life in the hotel." Jeanette says to Mavis.
 
With the sun still out, Mavis, of course, is wearing sun screen, a wide-brimmed hat and sunglasses. "Yes but that's the point. I need to see the world beyond Charlton's walls."
 
Jeanette finds it refreshing that Mavis is here. She and Maribelle have money and a name recognized in their respective areas, yet the two are different.
 
A Japanese woman in uniform looks at Chihiro as the group walks along. "Miss."
 
Chihiro approaches the woman in uniform. "Yes?"
 
The woman in uniform looks at Chihiro in a delightful surprise. "It's amazing. Your resemblance to Shizuku Tsukishima is uncanny though your hair is longer."
 
"Really? No one has said that since coming to America."
 
"Are you originally from Japan?"
 
"Yes. I am."
 
"Did you get a lot of that in Japan, being told you look like Shizuku?"
 
"Well, I had to deal with something like that shortly before coming here."
 
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Reply #2479 - Aug 18th, 2017, 3:34pm
 
"Moro." Jeanette begins to ask. "You've never told. When did all this happen?"
 
Moro seeks clarification. "You mean when did the Happening start?"
 
"Yeah."
 
"The fall of America started with an internal revolution."
 
"When was this?"
 
"It has been building up over a period of years. I think we can say it was an internal revolution in 2017."
 
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