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After Chaos (Read 189897 times)
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Re: After Chaos
Reply #1590 - Nov 9th, 2016, 8:00pm
 
"I know wine can be made from other fruits; my family has always needed grapes in our diet." Mavis listens to Fernando's answer. "Wait! What? Spirits creating a slave race? As if we didn't have enough problems. I've heard what Spirits have done in Japan; not this."
 
Note: I checked Sam's Club to get an idea of what a good bottle of wine there goes for: $25. A 1/10 oz gold coin is worth $100 in the RPG hence four bottles. Mavis needs one glass a day and it does not have to be aged. Since this is for her health and not to get drunk, I don't want to get the cheap stuff.
 
If I have to check Sam's Club then clearly this is all new to me. Given her needs, what can Mavis get for $100?
 
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Reply #1591 - Nov 9th, 2016, 8:15pm
 
"Spirits creating a Slave Race and possibly abandoned them as a failed experiment, that is correct. But as there are many spirit groups around the world, I seriously doubt it is your Spirit Group that is involved with this slave race creation and abandonment as in observing them, they seem to be highly incompetent on a lot of things. But you need to keep in mind, you say 'Spirit' and people think it is the Spirit Group that did them wrong. That includes humans, mutants and Wessens. So learn to keep your mouth shut and never utter the fact of what you are or associated with." Fernando explains, before turning to Val, "Val, could you get the girls ready and dressed up by 9AM? To formalize their adoption to you and Hondo."
 


Note: On average, a good wine is let to ferment and sit in the bottle for 7 years. A Cheap Wine for just one year. You can make a good wine by letting a cheap wine sit for another 6 or so years.
 
The issue I see is that this is not grape country, so grape wine will be hard to find if not expensive if it is found. But other fruit wines have the same health benefits of the Flavinoids in grape wine but at a lower concentration. So she might need to drink double the amount of a berry wine or 4X that of an apple wine than a grape wine.
 
Lets say it is found... how much is she willing to pay for it?
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Reply #1592 - Nov 10th, 2016, 9:03am
 
"That's why Karl acted the way he did when I met him. It didn't matter that my family is from Earth. Do I need to conceal my family name, Drăculești, or that we're from Wallachia?" Mavis thinks more on what Fernando said about Wesens. "There's a mutant I know of who looks like a rabbit with beige fur. Since Hana is rabbit in appearance, people here would think she's Wesen."
 
Note: Though I don't have a scientific explanation as for why the Drăculești family needs red wine, or at the very least grape juice, I need it in the story to explain another aspect of the vampire myth.
 
I don't have an idea yet as to how much Mavis is willing to spend on a bottle of wine (though I know a good bottle of wine can go for as much as $100). That's why I went to the Sam's Club website and looked at their more expensive wines.
 
I know this is not wine country; wine can be transported for a price.
 
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Reply #1593 - Nov 10th, 2016, 1:41pm
 
FYI: you don't go to same Club to buy good wine. Good wines can be hundreds even thousands of dollars for good to great and rare wines. $100 wines are decent,  not good truly good wines.  I can buy a bottle of Boone's farm for $5, but that's the cool aid of wines.  Box wines are sketchy at best.  Canned wine is so the boxed wine drinkers have someone to look down on.  A truly good wine will age well and can be kept in a wine cellar for years. Most wines at Sam's are not wine cellar type wines as they will go bad.  If it's a local wine ( finest wines of Idaho or wherever we are)  you might get them 4 for $100. Grape wine would be more expensive in this area as it's either a small vineyard or imported.  We have two small local wineries her in ND but growing the right grapes here in this climate is a challenge.  
 
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Valentine: I'll  get them ready.  
 
About that time Tonya comes out in her bath robe,  a bit growly as she wasn't a morning person like Val or Zoey we're.  She was more of a night person like Hondo was. Valentine handed her the plate of food Fernando dished for her.  
 
Valentine: eat up.  We got to get ready to go to town for the adoption papers here soon.  
 
Tonya merely grunted in reply.  She sat down and poked at her food.  Valentine grabbed a cup of coffee and put it in front of her.  
 
Tonya mumbled: I don't drink coffee.  
 
Valentine: you're like Hondo in the mornin' . For all our sakes try it.  
 
She wiped a bit at first then a bit more.  After five or so sips she admitted it was good  Karl downed a cup of coffee right away and grabbed an got a refill from Valentine.  He grabbed the refill and his food and followed Hondo to the truck.  Fernando wasn't far behind.
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Well the cowboy, like the red man, you had to leave your land
You can't raise your stock and plant your crop in the gumbo and the sand
Greed disguised as progress has put us to the test
They won't be glad until we're gone from our home out in the west
It's sad to see those good old days replaced with greed and doubt
Soon we'll leave the country, the campfire has gone out
Bid 'em all adieu, you can't turn the world about
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Re: After Chaos
Reply #1594 - Nov 10th, 2016, 1:46pm
 
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Grape Basics: Grapes grow in the former volcanic valley regions of warmer temperate zones (Italy, Southern France, Southern Spain, Greece, Southern California, and a few areas in USA, Caribbean Islands, Central America and Northern South America).
 
Where we are in the high plateaus and plains is not where grapes grow. It's too cold and the soil not fertile enough to grow grapes though one can try and end up with smaller fruit not suited for wine making (Like NYS Grapes). Thus any Grape Wine if found in this area, will be expensive.
 
The only health reason to drinking wine regularly is because of the Flavinoids, which does two things to the body:
 
1) Keeps the fat from a meal containing animal products from sticking together and forming plague in the arteries and hardening of the heart valves.
 
2) Thins the blood to keep it flowing freely (because of the alcohol, Garlic does the same thing and thin blood scares away a vampire for some unknown reason).
 
Whether it can be trucked in or not is not the matter. It is Supply and Demand that determines the Price. Within reason, if there is a market for something, there will be somebody out there willing to fill in that market. But, take in this example from Star trek Deep Space 9 between Quark (A Ferengi from the Alpha Quadrant - Buyer) and Zyree (A Dosi from the Gama Quadrant - Seller):
 
Quark (after buying 1000 cases of Tulaberry Wine): I want to buy 100,000 Vats of Tulaberry Wine for my customers in the Alpha Quadrant!
 
(Note: 1 vat is about 10,000 cases or 100,000 gallons)
 
Zyree: No You can't have that.
 
Quark: Why not? I'll pay any price to get that, it's in high demand in the Alpha Quadrant!
 
Zyree: There are not enough Tulaberries in the entire Gamma Quadrant to make 10,000 Vats of wine. And you want 100,000 vats? That's impossible!
 
*Because of this conversation, Quark is now paying for 10X the price he originally started with. He should have kept his big mouth shut...
 
 
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In this case, because the demand for Tulaberry wine is so high but supply of Tulaberries is so low. the price for it is going to be astronomical.
 
The same with Grape Wine in this region. Someone's supplying it, but what is the demand for it? If that demand is high, then it will demand a high price, as I am expecting. Some sources she can search for is in Christian/Catholic Churches and in Jewish Synagogues as they do use wine in some of their religious ceremonies, and thus there is the demand for it for someone to go out and fulfill. Thus for Mavis, she has to be able to tap into this market. What is the cost she is going to have to pay? At best, a gold coin for 2 bottles. At worst - 4 or more gold coins for 1 bottle.
 
Here she needs to wheel and deal to get the best price possible.
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Reply #1595 - Nov 10th, 2016, 2:35pm
 
Note: This conversation is killing my idea. The idea was to explain where the myth of needing to drink blood comes from. These Spirits need red wine, actually what's in red wine, to live. As the stories were handed down they were embellished: wine eventually became blood.
 
As you said Mavis would need something else with flavonoids.
 
Here is my latest story post:
 
Quote from Jeanette on Nov 10th, 2016, 9:03am:
"That's why Karl acted the way he did when I met him. It didn't matter that my family is from Earth. Do I need to conceal my family name, Drăculești, or that we're from Wallachia?" Mavis thinks more on what Fernando said about Wesens. "There's a mutant I know of who looks like a rabbit with beige fur. Since Hana is rabbit in appearance, people here would think she's Wesen."

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Reply #1596 - Nov 10th, 2016, 2:51pm
 
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"Now, for your services in helping us out, That SUV is yours - Karl. Gas and upkeep we will help you with. That is not a problem for Hondo and t, right Hondo?" Fernando says as he takes a seat in the truck section of Hondo's camper with Karl and Hondo.
 
"You were going to sell me truck?" Karl gets excited at that news.
 
"First, it was a get-away vehicle for you to get you and Tonya out from the hunters/slavers. But while you were mucking around with the girls, I decided to search the vehicle, and found a radio controlled bomb in the gas tank." Fernando tells him, looking at his awed expression, add, "I had it removed with some help from my friend I can call brother. So it is safe to drive. We also got a couple more vehicles from the last battle and they were sold for supplies we needed. But that SUV, is yours. As is we got too many vehicles and not enough drivers. But one thing I do want you to do is according to your knowledge, as we go from town to town, what towns are Wessen and Mutant friendly. Consider that information for a full tank of fuel in your ride, and a couple of carry jugs of fuel. Accept the deal?"
 
Karl thinks about it for a moment. And in thought he knows that being with a group is better than being alone, especially for a Wessen. Though Slavery may have ended, there maybe problems for a Wessen to be a free person, especially alone. "I'll accept on one condition."
 
"What's that?" Fernando asks.
 
Karl points to Hondo's holstered firearm, "I need my own personal protection."
 
Fernando looks at Hondo who nods back slightly.
 
"OK, I'll get you a little something for protection while Hondo takes care of some paperwork for his family. You also going to need some clothes, boots, a coat and a hat. Need blankets for your ride? You seemed cold in there." Fernando nods back at Hondo and turns to Karl. "Anything else?"
 
"Now that I think about it, maybe a boxed camper trailer like you guys have." Karl adds.
 
"Lets not get greedy." Hondo says loud enough to be heard.
 
"No, he's right. He needs a place to sleep and wash up and change his clothes. The SUV is not big enough for that. I don't mind sharing but we got girls here and the last thing we need is for them to see his wang hanging out when he steps out to get dressed. I'll talk to Tom and see what's available for a low cost. Of course, it needs to be heated with Princess Snow freezing everything up." Fernando explains.
 
Karl seems to be happy with what he is hearing.
 
"Ya still gonna stay with us and not run out on us..." Hondo tells him.
 
"He is not going to get far on a tank of fuel hauling a camper. If the highway raider gangs don't get him, not having food and money will." Fernando points out.
 
"There's safety in numbers. And if you want me to work, I'll work until we split ways in Texas. That is no problem for me." Karl lets out.
 
"Good. I'll take care of his needs, Hondo. Just take care of your girls and Macey for me while I go do this." Fernando says to them, We'll have a little celebration afterwards... for the girls. Karl, you will help me with getting a few supplies after I take care of you." Fernando tells them.
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Reply #1597 - Nov 10th, 2016, 3:00pm
 
Quote from Jeanette on Nov 10th, 2016, 2:35pm:
Note: This conversation is killing my idea. The idea was to explain where the myth of needing to drink blood comes from. These Spirits need red wine, actually what's in red wine, to live. As the stories were handed down they were embellished: wine eventually became blood.

As you said Mavis would need something else with flavonoids.

Here is my latest story post:

Quote from Jeanette on Nov 10th, 2016, 9:03am:
"That's why Karl acted the way he did when I met him. It didn't matter that my family is from Earth. Do I need to conceal my family name, Drăculești, or that we're from Wallachia?" Mavis thinks more on what Fernando said about Wesens. "There's a mutant I know of who looks like a rabbit with beige fur. Since Hana is rabbit in appearance, people here would think she's Wesen."

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That I do not find as a problem. It's just the price that maybe a problem for Mavis to swallow. But with the gold coins Jeanette, Fernando and Hondo has, and deals they are making to get supplies (like reclaimed Slaver vehicles they got and sold), this should not be a problem.
 
In saying, if Mavis has a health need to drink wine, then price is no object as she needs to get it. Getting the money or items for trade for the wine, that is the adventure. And THAT is what the RPG is about- solving problems.
 
If Mavis needs extra money, she can ask us for it. Or Hondo and Fernando can pull some weight around since they just ended this war with the slavers and sellers are willing to sell them at bargain basement prices. Or she can try to put on the feminine charm and get a deal that way though there is a change that some body would go Trump on her and "grab her by the pussy." All that is on you as the writer. I want to see what you can come up with.
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Reply #1598 - Nov 10th, 2016, 4:44pm
 
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Fernando, Hondo and Karl go into town to discuss about the convoy routes and were given maps as to what towns are heading south.  The convoy leaves at 6pm, with the last vehicles rolling out by 7:30, though the convoy splits into two after it leaves the town's main roads - North and South. It is the Southern Convoy they want to attach themselves too. Fernando gives his maps to Hondo so Hondo can go back, wash up a bit and get ready with the girls for their adoption papers.
 
"Karl, you're with me." Fernando tells him as Hondo splits from their group.
 
"Where too?" Karl asks.
 
"Just follow. As my 'body guard,' you do and don't say." Fernando says as he leads Karl into the market place. Though the town was still celebrating with new people coming in, things seems to get quiet when Fernando steps into view. It is not the kind of attention Fernando wants. He takes Karl into the indoor market and into Tom's weapons and Firearms. Tom and a couple of his employees are there.
 
"Hey! Fernando!" Tom lets out as he steps out of the counter and take his hand to shake. "What can I d for you today?"
 
"Just the basics. one 12 gauge shotgun, one .308 hunting rifle, a .38 super or 9mm pistol, a boot pistol and holsters, carry boxes and 100 rounds of ammo for everything, make sure it fits him." Fernando says to Tom as he points Karl.
 
"A Wessen? He your body guard bullet magnet?" Tom asks.
 
"How did you know?" Fernando asks.
 
"Wessens are only good as watch dogs or as sex puppies, and this one does not look like to be your type." Tom tries to make a joke about it.
 
"I see." Fernando says as he puts an arm out to keep Karl in place. He then adds, Yeah, he's working for me since he found out I ended the slavers and got him freed. He's also going to need a few other things. Get him a shoulder holster, not a belt holster."
 
"No problem." Tom says as he snaps his fingers at his employees to come over. "Take'm to the back and get him measured. And get me a shotgun and hunting rifle."
 
Tom's workers take Karl to the back as he pulls out a few small fire arms for Fernando to inspect. Fernando takes a small .22 revolver for the boot gun with an ankle holster.
 
Tom pulls out a couple of larger but small firearms. Fernando chooses a small .38ACP pistol for Karl.
 
"These will do. Thanks." Fernando tell him.
 
"I'll get these wrapped up. What else your Wessen Guardian needs?" Tom says and asks
 
"I'll get him a small camper trailer to sleep in, I can talk to Jerry about that. He needs clothes, boots and a hat."  Fernando says.
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Reply #1599 - Nov 10th, 2016, 8:55pm
 
Note on wine:  
 
Hondo has 10 - 2 liter bottles of red wine he bought (good wine) to store at his cabin in Wyoming. might be able to get a bottle off Valentine. Hondo wouldn't be the one to ask, just sayin'.
 
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  Hondo heads back to camper to get ready and help hurry the girls to get ready.   (not sure who is in the trailer by this time nor if they were waiting to go sign the adoption papers when Fernando got back or take Macey with them)
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Well the cowboy, like the red man, you had to leave your land
You can't raise your stock and plant your crop in the gumbo and the sand
Greed disguised as progress has put us to the test
They won't be glad until we're gone from our home out in the west
It's sad to see those good old days replaced with greed and doubt
Soon we'll leave the country, the campfire has gone out
Bid 'em all adieu, you can't turn the world about
The cowboy left the country, the campfire has gone out
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