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After Chaos (Read 186437 times)
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Re: After Chaos
Reply #760 - Apr 17th, 2016, 12:11am
 
"You missed the point Jeanette. And it is not I who is presenting a laundry list of problems. I do not care about the bus. Moro wants the bus, she gets it herself, she is not getting with Elsa in tow." Fernando begins. He puts in the items he was carrying into the open rear of the Bronco, "You are not giving proper information, just bits and pieces. You are going by what the crows are telling you from their 'covert operation of spying and reporting' on Hondo and I. If you do not trust me to the point where you have crows observing me and reporting my actions and activities to you, then you should walk from me and don't look back. What I am doing I do at out of the goodness of my heart to help others; what Hondo and his friend does, they do out of the goodness of their hearts; neither one of us need to prove anything to you or these crows."
 
Fernando steps away from the rear doors for Hondo to close, but continues on his rant, "You stated that you had a bus, you never mentioned where it was until the point was pressed. You stated that you would drive it, but then who would drive your gas camper? Then Moro volunteers to drive, with Elsa by her side. Considering the dangers of these roads, a bus would not make it without an accident, so to keep Elsa safe, she is not to be with Moro while driving this bus. That is not a hard request, no, make that demand, to follow. But then it gets changed that the bus is in Kansas where 'the roads are safer.' Big whoopie doo there! Want a cupie doll for that? You nor the spirits thought out that Elsa's expression of her cold weather powers is going to cause tornadoes within Tornado Alley. This would effectively destroy what rebuilding efforts that Kansas has been doing. But the when pointed out that the bus could be teleported to Texas where it is needed, the spirits complained about the expenditure of energy. What is more important, the bus, the bus getting to Texas no matter the cost to human live and property or the bus getting to Texas and some energy wasted to get it there and people and their property safe and alive?"
 
He steps away from them for a second to reenter the market but then stops in his tracks and turns around and points to Moro, "Or are you going to use Elsa's powers to to create super tornadoes that lay Kansas' population to waste so Texas can move in and take over?" He waits for a moment for them to answer but before he interjects, "You know Moro - #$@! the bus. #$@! you and #$@! the bus. You are not to go after it. If your spirit friends want it, they can get it, they can drive it, and they can deal with it. You are not to disappear from Jeanette's sight either alone or with Elsa. You do, and I will hunt you down and drag you back before I kill you in front of everybody and then drop your carcass in front of Elsa's father and tell them that you lied, because you are. None of this is about saving humanity, this is about having the earth spirit friendly for you to move into like squatters in an abandoned house. So don't say anything, I'm so pissed off right now I might send you back 75million years so you can be dirty dancing with the dinosaurs."
 
Fernando starts to head back into the market, not caring what the others have to say.
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Reply #761 - Apr 17th, 2016, 12:16am
 
Hondo stops long enough to admire the sick jswed looks, piffs on his pipe a couple times then follows Fernando without a word.
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Well the cowboy, like the red man, you had to leave your land
You can't raise your stock and plant your crop in the gumbo and the sand
Greed disguised as progress has put us to the test
They won't be glad until we're gone from our home out in the west
It's sad to see those good old days replaced with greed and doubt
Soon we'll leave the country, the campfire has gone out
Bid 'em all adieu, you can't turn the world about
The cowboy left the country, the campfire has gone out
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Reply #762 - Apr 17th, 2016, 8:36am
 
"I know it was not you who presented a laundry list of problems and I did not say it was you. Said list was presented nonetheless." Jeanette does not know where this is going. "Moro stated they had a bus after the accusation of planning grand theft auto was made against them. The location of the bus and the condition of at least a part of Interstate 35 was not mentioned until after assumptions were made.
 
"Regarding Elsa, did the Spirits think Elsa would conquer her fears by the time we get to Kansas or was this an oversight? I don't know.
 
"Whom are you talking to?" Jeanette continues.
 
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Reply #763 - Apr 17th, 2016, 9:18am
 
Moro, who is still with Elsa, does not know what to make of what's going on. Every time she opens her mouth, problems happen.
 
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Reply #764 - Apr 17th, 2016, 11:42am
 
"Did I just hear Jeanette say that the bus maybe stolen property?" Fernando slows down his pace.
 
 
"I think I heard the same thang, Jefe." Hondo replies.
 
"I'm going to ignore that comment for now." Fernando begins, "These Spirits are up to no good. They are not here to serve others, they are here to serve themselves, and only themselves. If they so want a bus, I know there's a bus grave yard by the Sangre de Christo mountains on the Colorado - New Mexico border off route Interstate 25, I used to pass by it all the time for the airplane graveyard. With their claim to restore equipment, they can have all the free buses they want that they can fix up, repair, clean and drive away. And right next to that is a train graveyard with a closed down maintenance facility and electrical generating station which they can do the same thing there too. All they need to do is ask and if there is a price to pay, they can barter their services to fix the roads, train tracks and electrical station for the buses and trains, which they need to do anyway to get the buses and trains back to Texas."
 
"They ain't too bright, aren't they." Hondo points out as they walk to Tom's Firearms Tent.
 
"Done your shopping for the day?" Tom asks as he stands by his counter with his hand on a wooden ammo box.
 
"For now. Tomorrow we will need to buy more food." Fernando says.
 
"Got our package for us?" Hondo asks as he looks at the wooden box under Tom's hand.
 
"Right here. Care to inspect it?" Tom asks.
 
"Just a look-see. You can't be too careful out there, ya know." Hondo says as he gets the box, opens it and inspect each item inside. He nods approvingly after examining each item - 6 .22LR mini-pistols with the folding handle and belt clip and 4 regular .22LR mini-pistols, their new replacement leather holsters, boxes of ammo and cleaning kits for each. After each item is inspected, they are placed back into the wooden box. Payment is made and hands were shaken at the end of the deal. "Anything else, Jefe?" Hondo asks.
 
"That gatling gun would be nice, but no way that would fit on any of our rides." Fernando points out the weapon. On one of its 4ft mounting legs it says, "USS Saratoga - Phalanx System 001."
 
"No way I can fit that on my ride." Hondo points out.
 
"Lets see what these damn women are up too." Fernando says as he leaves the tent.
 
"Wait a minute." Tom says to Hondo before he steps out of the tent. He then hands him an envelope. Hondo opens it, inside were the two NYC EMS patches on the torn arm sleeve, "It's on the house for your friend. I don't know where it came from but I heard the owner may still alive way south of here in a place called Fort Sumner (near the New Mexico/Texas border). If it true, maybe your friend can find them and reunite them."
 
Hondo gives the patches one last look before putting them away in his trench coat pocket, "I'll make sure we get that done. And thanks." They shake hands one last time before Hondo leaves the tent area. He meets up with Fernando outside. "Anything else before we go?"
 
"A stiff drink would be nice, but no. Lets see what these women want before we leave. I just need you to drive me to the motel so I can pick up the electric camper and if Jeanette has any brains, she can pick up the gas camper and the three of us can drive to the parking lot and finish the work that needs to be done." Fernando says and explains.
 
"Sounds like a plan. Lets go." Hondo says as they walk around to look for Jeanette and the others.
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Reply #765 - Apr 17th, 2016, 12:16pm
 
Quote from Fernando on Apr 17th, 2016, 11:42am:
"Did I just hear Jeanette say that the bus maybe stolen property?" Fernando slows down his pace.


"I think I heard the same thang, Jefe." Hondo replies.

Moro said, "It now seems the party does not need the bus we have prepared." http://www.hondosackett.com/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1428938728/725#725
 
Jeanette said, "I overheard a conversation between Moro and another Spirit. She said the party does not need the bus they had prepared. I understood that to mean you got something else." http://www.hondosackett.com/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1428938728/730#730
 
Fernando said, "I do not know nor do I care about what plans the spirits may have. But if they have ideas of taking Hondo's camper and truck for their own, if you think they got problems with me still wanting to put a bullet into Moro's skull, let them try to do something against Hondo and Val."
 
Hondo said, "What was that about somebody wantin' to take my ride?"
 
Fernando said, "I'll take care of it, Hondo. Believe me, I will take care of it. Hondo is willing to share his food, bathroom and ride for us to get to Texas. But these false gods want to take all for their own that would have been shared for the good of all, this is the type of people I do not want to do anything with. And a Bus? We have two - Volkswagen Campers, also known as the VW Bus. But they are so concern about the ecology and economy that they are willing to thrown in another one? How many people do they want us to drag back to Texas? Bus loads? And who is going to drive that - Hikaru? Moro? I would not trust Moro to drive a simulated race car in a video game! Last time I checked we are not the Partridge Family riding a hippie painted school bus cross country. And I am not going to allow anyone who thinks they can steal what may be offered as a share. Hondo's willing to share what he has to offer, that is where I draw the line." http://www.hondosackett.com/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1428938728/731#731
 
Moro said, "No, no, it's not like that. We acquired and fixed up a city bus we want driven to Texas. If this party can use it, we'd be killing two birds with one stone." http://www.hondosackett.com/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1428938728/732#732
 
I don't understand any of these accusations at all.
 
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Re: After Chaos
Reply #766 - Apr 17th, 2016, 12:31pm
 
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Fernando' statement of the bus being stolen is from this statement:
 
Quote from Jeanette on Apr 17th, 2016, 8:36am:
...Jeanette does not know where this is going. "Moro stated they had a bus after the accusation of planning grand theft auto was made against them. The location of the bus and the condition of at least a part of Interstate 35 was not mentioned until after assumptions were made...

 
It is hearing this as Fernando and Hondo walked away is where the situation is coming from. It is the danger of sounding like they are in the wrong thing and not verifying the facts. It is stated -
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Every time she (Moro) opens her mouth, problems happen.

 
Though the GTA statement was made by Jeanette, in her statement that the crows are "snitch on Fernando and Hondo's activities" is making them lose trust and faith in her and thus now everything they pick up on hearing and seeing their activity, will be under scrutiny.
 
This is not a misunderstanding of the posts, this is how the characters are being played out.

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Reply #767 - Apr 17th, 2016, 1:02pm
 
Note 2:


Quote from Jeanette on Apr 15th, 2016, 4:56pm:
"Hello." Jeanette approaches. "The ladies and I were just looking at dolls an antique dealer has. I only understood one side of a conversation; I understand you got something with wheels."

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Quote from Jeanette on Apr 15th, 2016, 5:43pm:
"Yes, looks good. I overheard a conversation between Moro and another Spirit. She said the party does not need the bus they had prepared. I understood that to mean you got something else."

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Questions:
 
Why would the spirits be interested in anything Hondo has if it is his?
 
Why would the spirit/crows be observing Hondo and Fernando in the first place? Worst - why are they reporting those observations to Moro where Jeanette would be able to over hear?
 
There was already an atmosphere of mistrust between Fernando and Moro, which Jeanette is throwing herself into and by appearance, chosen to be on Moro's side. By Jeanette's verification that the crows reported on Hondo and Fernando activities just added a level of more mistrust, and paranoia because it is perceived that they have an interest in what Hondo has (the camper trailers that Jeanette not seen yet and anything else of value). Thus there is a perceived belief that the spirits want to take without asking.
 
The trailers were found and bought by Hondo for Fernando and Jeanette but they needed to be fixed up. True - the spirits could have asked to help out to fix them but instead they stood around to observe what Fernando and Hondo were doing and then reported on them. Thus Fernando and Hondo can not help but to think that they were spied and reported on. Hondo was willing to give these camper trailers to Jeanette and Fernando but now in my view he's not so sure.
 
Who are the spirits to spy on the individual members of the group and them report on their activities? That brings up a level of mistrust of those involved and breaks down the level of trust needed to keep the group together. And that is creating problems that should not be there. And that is a situation Jeanette and Moro needs to realize and deal with. Until then, there will more mistrust and more statements taken the wrong way. That is where we in the RPG stand.
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Reply #768 - Apr 17th, 2016, 4:18pm
 
As established, the Texas Spirits have been observing Jeanette since she was a little girl. The same Spirits, as established, have been observing Fernando since he and Jeanette met in the Kevin and Kell forum. Now that Hondo and Valentine are traveling with the party, they are observing them as well. They know about Hondo from his interaction with Jeanette on The Acorn Café. Remember, it's Jeanette who they are interested in.
 
Moro was not there so she knows nothing of what happened. When Moro left the church, one of her fellow Spirits gave her an update. Since the fellow Spirit was in the form of a crow, only Moro could understand what her fellow Spirit said. What Jeanette picked up on is what Moro said.
 
Fernando and Hondo could have had an entire crew of engineers, electricians and mechanics helping. Do you remember what happened when a Spirit, other than Moro, transformed into human form?
 
Now you want to talk about problems that should not be there? Right out of the gate Fernando distrusts the Spirits. I will give you an illustration. Fernando walks into a messy room, sees a woman cleaning the room and blames the cleaning lady for creating a mess in the first place.
 
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Reply #769 - Apr 17th, 2016, 6:46pm
 
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Yes, some people are like that. So what. There will always be people who distrust others upon their first encounters even if they never met. That's no biggie...
 
Fernando is not the type of person that would blame anyone for what they are cleaning up because he has been in that situation before.
 
But the way Spirits are acting is suspicious for his tastes. It is one thing to observe someone in the past for historical and reference checking on that person. It is another thing to go out, observe what someone is doing and immediately report to someone else like an immediate supervisor (which Moro is to them as per past posts). That is out-right spying.
 
The spirits through their past observations should know how Fernando operates. In present time of 2066, they should not be spying and reporting on him, that there is a suspicious activity on their part. For Jeanette to understand what is said to Moro by what she heard, she should have asked questions as to why are they continued to be observed. They put us into the situation of doing a job for them which will get done but if they are observing us as we do our work, why? That is suspicious in nature. If they can follow us, and if they can observe us, then they can do the job themselves. They do not need us to do. If they need to observe us, then they do not trust us in getting the job done.
 
If that is the case, then this RPG needs another reevaluation.
 
Note the given:
- Fernando distrusts the spirits because it is his belief that they did something to the time line to put humanity through hell.
- There are more than one set of spirits in the RPG.
- Fernando is not going to act until he has all the cards in the deck and then he will make his move. What that move is remains to be seen.
 
Note what is being observed:
- The spirits are spying on Fernando and Hondo and reporting it to Moro, as per Jeanette's admission:


Quote from Jeanette on Apr 15th, 2016, 4:56pm:
"Hello." Jeanette approaches. "The ladies and I were just looking at dolls an antique dealer has. I only understood one side of a conversation; I understand you got something with wheels."

Jeanette Isabelle

Quote from Jeanette on Apr 15th, 2016, 5:43pm:
"Yes, looks good. I overheard a conversation between Moro and another Spirit. She said the party does not need the bus they had prepared. I understood that to mean you got something else."

Jeanette Isabelle

 
It is because of this that there is more mistrust because this is out-right disrespect of Fernando and Hondo. What are they gaining by observing us? we under suspicion for them to observe us? We are supposed to be free to do what has to be done in this RPG.
 
Face it - by Jeanette's admission, Fernando and Hondo have a right to be angered for the disrespect the spirits had just done by observing and then immediately reporting them.
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