Quote from Fernando on Mar 31st, 2016, 12:00pm:"First off, I did not know you were incapable of having children, but Moore's law states that ever so many years, Man's knowledge and technology expands exponentially, to the point where we ill be god-like in our abilities. This would happen according to his theory before 2020 or shortly after that. Thus by then there should a be cure for you by then if you so want it." Fernando begins.
"But enough of that. Arendelle could not have made a deal with Texas back in 1803 as it was under Mexican Rule during those days. That deal would have to have been made with Mexico. The fact that Texas because a state of the United States because Mexico lost the war they had with the USA. Thus the spirits failed in protecting Texas then from take over and Arendelle would have known about it as much of Europe was interested in how the USA was forming and wanted in on its natural resources through trade and economic alliances. In seeing the Spirits fail, Arendelle would have demanded Elsa's return. In Texas failing in 1803, no one would have wanted an alliance with them. In that I can deduce that somebody lied about Texas' ability to produce natural resources on a vast scale when back then it was sparsely populated and resources like oil not tapped into until the late 1800s." He continues.
Jeanette thought Fernando knew she isn't able to have children. That's not important for this discussion.
"As I learned three weeks ago, something we talked about over E-mail, the Spirits we are currently dealing with are descendants of a group from Japan. Therefore, there couldn't have been Spirits in Texas in 1803 except for Native American Spirits. According to Moro, the alliance was made with the Texas Spirits and not with any form of government in that region of that time. According to Moro, Elsa was adopted four months ago. It stands to reason time travel was involved and we both know the Texas Spirits are capable of time travel. Time travel and the order in which things happen can be confusing so let me break this thing down:
One, at some point in history, I don't know when, a group of Spirits from Japan settled in Texas and became known as the Texas Spirits.
Two, in 2066 a group of Texas Spirits traveled to 1803 Arendelle, or earlier, to forge an alliance.
Three, a group of Texas Spirits return from 1803 Arendelle back to 2066 Texas, leaving Spirits and ships behind to defend Arendelle, and bring Elsa with them."
Quote from Fernando on Mar 31st, 2016, 12:00pm:After a brief pause, he continues, "Further more, the wars won by Arendelle was because no invading army could go in during their harsh winters and cold summers. There were no reports in the historical events of an amassed Arendelle army or of 'lightning bolts' falling from the skies that decimate an invading army. Therefore, what wars Arendelle won was from their own ability, and I would dare say from environmental influence from the adult Ice Queen you have in you have in your camper as a child. In 1803, Texas has nothing to offer Arendelle to form an alliance, not the people, not the ability to take natural resources, not the ability to ship goods. Remember, to get to Arendelle would be by ship, that means to go across the Gulf of Mexico, the Caribbean Sea, The Atlantic, and then the Baltic Sea, a 3 to 4 months trip at best. But in the Gulf of Mexico and Caribbean Sea there are pirates who raid and sink ships for their cargo. And if the pirates did not raid and sink your ships, the seasonal hurricanes would. According to Spanish records, out of every 8 or 9 ships they sent to Mexico to get Mexican gold and Spices, only 1 or 2 would survive the trip back to Spain. Arendelle would not like that as a return of investment. If they use the cloaked ships, they would be discovered, and any person of power having such a military advantage would have used it to expand their kingdom - which never happened in history. The King of Arendelle was an idiot to ignored all these facts to give up his daughter for an alliance of nothing in return to a 'nation' that does not exist. Remember back then even brightest of mind were arguing if air and its many components existed or not. You want to persuade a king that you have invisible ships floating in the sky to help? I don't care what color rabbit you pull out of your hat - I would not have fallen for that. Moro for all intents and purposes took advantage of her guardian of Elsa a step too far, kidnapped her and brought her to Texas 2066."
"From the conversations I had with you today, I know we share the same point of view. In that point of view Queen Elsa defeated Napoleon's army. However, that demonstration of power divided Arendelle into the Nordic countries you and I know. Hikaru has a different point of view. Hikaru did not say anything about an amassed Arendelle army or lightning bolts falling from the sky. She talked about invasions mysteriously failing.
"Remember, we're not discussing wooden sailing ships. The Texas Spirits have space ship. Everything you just said about wooden sailing ships do not apply.
"It has never happened in our point of view.
"What facts did the king ignore in Hikaru's point of view?
"If that is what happened, the Texas Spirits must have put a lot of time with just the planning. It does not include the time to execute the plan. For all we know, that could have taken years.
"Let's bring this back to my question. Is there a way to verify that in 1803 the king of Arendelle forged an alliance with the Texas Spirits? The verification may or may not say Texas Spirits, I don't know either way. If everything I'm hearing is true, wouldn't there be some record of the king of Arendelle forging an alliance with a governing body that fits the description of the group we are dealing with?"
Jeanette Isabelle