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Reply #580 - Mar 29th, 2016, 9:56pm
 
"Alright. I'll pull over where I'm at. Looks like I'm a half mile from some burnt out farm buildings and if you are lucky, you might see some guy walking a giant chicken in the area. Macey says that mutant chicken eggs are a delicacy around here, the eggs are about the size of a basketball. So you figure out the math. Also beware, looks like there are scavengers in the area looking about for food and things about the side of the road, yet they did not bother the guy with giant chicken. As for the road so far, it's drivable" He tells Jeanette over the radio, "We'll talk when you get here."
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Reply #581 - Mar 29th, 2016, 10:41pm
 
Jeanette sees the electric Camper, pulls up behind it and shuts off the engine. She gets out and approaches Fernando. "Elsa may be a political pawn. In her time princesses were married off to forge alliances with other kingdoms. Instead of being married off Elsa may have been adopted out to forge an alliance with the Texas Spirits. I saw a problem with that. Why would the Texas Spirits forge an alliance so that Moro could adopt a child? The Texas Spirits are interested in Elsa. I asked Moro why are the Texas Spirits interested in Elsa. She responds by saying how is that surprising?"
 
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Reply #582 - Mar 29th, 2016, 11:45pm
 
"'The Piped Piper of Hamelin' will not tell you everything until it is too late to get answers and by then there is nothing you can do about it." Fernando tells Jeanette as he eyes the area around them. He continues, "Prince and princesses were married off to fortify political alliances between kingdoms. But that only works if it remains within their time. Elsa of 1803 is only good as a political pawn in 1803. In 2066 she has nothing to connect political power too. So there is something here going on that meets the eye. Secondly - Moro stated about me challenging her papers in an  Arendellian court with 'Queen Elsa' presiding as judge. Is the Little Ice Princess an immortal when she reaches adulthood? And adoption for political power does not work because once the adopted child grows up, she leaves. Marriage on the other hand is binding for life. The other questions that need to be answered. But first ask Moro what she knows of this statement: '5 Universes, 2500 Species, 1 race.' I do not want to deal with her, let alone see her. But if she does not give the answer I know, then we are all being duped."
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Reply #583 - Mar 30th, 2016, 9:29am
 
"I don't know why you're calling the suspect the Pied Piper. I, of course, know the story; I don't get the connection.
 
"Elsa may not be a political pawn beyond being adopted out to forge an alliance with the Texas Spirits. Being time travelers I bet the Texas Spirits know Elsa does not have any political connections in 2066. Therefore, there has to be another reason for the Texas Spirits to be interested in Elsa.
 
"I heard the conversation. Moro did not say anything about an Arendelle court. It was Hikaru who suggested taking the case to Arendelle.
 
http://www.hondosackett.com/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1428938728/557#557
 
"Moro did say 'Queen Elsa' but that was after a crow called. One Spirit talking to another. Anyhow, I got the impression it was a last minute ditch to stall or divert attention.
 
"Once again the Texas Spirits may not be interested in Elsa for her political connections."
 
Jeanette opens the side door. "Moro, what do you know about '5 Universes, 2500 Species, 1 race?'"
 
Moro responds with a quick, simple answer. "The Council of the Five is a group of alien races that protect humans against less peaceful races. The council coined the phrase '5 Universes, 2500 Species, 1 race.'"
 
Jeanette closes the door and relays to Fernando what was said.
 
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Reply #584 - Mar 30th, 2016, 12:18pm
 
"The Piped piper of Hamelin went from town to town collecting children as part of a deal - what that deal was, who knows. And why, again, who knows. The story of Hamelin, he 'stole' the children by making them hallucinate from ergot from a bad batch of Rye he put into some pastries for the children to eat and led them away never to be seen again. Question - Why do the spirits have an orphanage, and why are they collecting children? Why do they have a school to teach them to a certain level of education? Why not beyond that?" He begins.
 
It looks to him that Jeanette still does not understand the connection he sees. In his mind, maybe she will later on.
 
"The Council of 5, formerly and in parts still is, The Council of 9, is a group of Universal Spirits or Aliens - depending on your view - who decided that there should be no extraterrestrial interference on earth. But here are these spirits, interfering with human history and human evolution. Lets put it this way - if there are 5 Universes, 2500 Species, but only 1 race, how can that be? There is something about being a race of beings made up of thousands of species. But in seeing how big one universe is to only get a fraction of that number of species must mean that to be part of that must be very rare. If the Council of 5 stated that there is to be no external interference of Earth and of Humanity, then we must be that valuable to them and we must evolve to their level of maturity, and who knows, we are to join that group of 2500 species. But what are the spirits doing? They in their interference, have destroyed humanity and are rebuilding it to what they want it to be. Just know this - To some ETs, we were considered as equal to them because we were evolving to their level of technological and social level. To other ETs, we are nothing more than a gas station, repair shop and slave trading post. I dare put the spirits on that other group because of their activities of hoarding and negotiations of manpower and resources. Elsa if just one child, but if you clone her, you can use her clones as a resource or as a weapon. An army of Elsas would be daunting, would you not think? What about Gabrielle? They say that she is to be a leader. Generals are leaders. Gabriella leading an army of Elsas on a battle field... it can get ugly. A soldier with a limited education is a soldier who can not question the orders given to them. But that is only one point of view."
 
He pauses for a while to see her reaction.
 
He continues, "Anyways... a civilization gets faster than light interstellar travel or Time travel first and then the other shortly after. Though it rarely happens, some managed to do both at the same time. At the start of the millennium we as a species were approaching to do both. We were planning on colonizing the Moon and Mars by 2030, and have hotels in space. We would begin our first interstellar journey by 2050 or not sooner. Most of the world's problems would have been solved by then, despite having some 30+ Billion people. But something happened. The question is what happened, and more important - why? The only answer I get is their interference had something to do with it. The question lies - are we a slave race to these spirits and is the earth nothing but a gas station to them? I'll point out that something similar happened long ago with the Egyptians and many others at the time because if you go around the world, you will find pyramids all over the planet of about and round the same age, and then all that ended all of the sudden around the same time. This is the time line I speak off, and this is why I do not trust them. The only proof lies in some parallel universe timeline we can never see."
 
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thoth
http://www.thewhitegoddess.co.uk/articles/ancient_egypt/the_benu_bird.asp
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Reply #585 - Mar 30th, 2016, 12:59pm
 
"Before I forget, keep in mind Feymen's equation of Universal Evolution - given a galaxy of a trillion stars, only .01 percent of them managed to have planets that can support life, and .01 percent of those stars are safe enough to support life in their planetary systems, and .01 percent of them are in the Goldie Locks zone to create life, and of that .01 percent of them evolve to have intelligence, and of that .01 percent develop civilizations, and of that .01 percent develop science and technology, and of that .01 percent develop technology to go to the stars and across time all within a span of 10-billion years in any given time. That only leaves a handful of stars within the galaxy that develops life that gets to this point of evolution. As is, Mankind was approaching that in half that time. Mind you, as measured by our technology, this universe we live in is about 13.5 billion years old. So there will be civilizations with higher technology than we have and many others a lot lower. So how rare is man in the universe? We may not be alone in the universe, but we certainly are rare to be at this state. If anyone interferes with our evolution, what is going to happen to us? Now ask yourself, what are the spirits doing? This is not about politics. if they want somebody in the seat of power, they would put them there themselves, not ask a group of rank amateurs to gather those people up for them. I can not help to think that they are interfering with our evolution, the question is why?" He throws at her.
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Reply #586 - Mar 30th, 2016, 3:51pm
 
"The Spirits do not have an orphanage." Jeanette illustrates that someone is actually paying attention. "The care and education of the orphans is the work of the Renmei. The Texas Spirits, however, refurbished the buildings. As for why their education only went to a certain level, you would need to take that up with the Renmei. At least they will get a complete education when the Texas settlements form a republic.
 
"Someone needs to get off the dime because these Spirits have been here for at least a few hundred years. Even in my point of view crows have been observing me since I was a little girl. Moreover, according to Morro, Spirits have been observing you since we met in the Kevin and Kell forum.
 
"Let me through this at you. Why are we so valuable to The Council of Five? The more you talk about them, the more they sound like the Spirits.
 
"Gabrielle is supposed to lead a social revolution."
 
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Reply #587 - Mar 30th, 2016, 9:01pm
 
Jeanette gives more thought to the last thing Fernando said. "Moro said we will find Gabrielle on the street. She needs to be fed, cleaned up and dressed. I told Moro she doesn't need us for that. Moro then says, and I quote, 'Gabrielle will be kicked out of her home because of her black wings. Imagine what that does to a child.' She goes on to say, this time I'm paraphrasing, everyone will have their respective roles. Do you think this could be an example of the Spirits interfering with our evolution?" Jeanette does not believe in evolution. Nevertheless she thinks about that last question.
 
Jeanette has been questioning everything since she got here; this really has her scratching her head, figuratively speaking. An EMT is transported fifty-six years in the future to pick up a child off the street and then work as a nurse in an orphanage.
 
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Reply #588 - Mar 30th, 2016, 10:39pm
 
"Without the Spirits, the Renmei would not have the orphanage, school or infrastructure. Without the Spirits, a lot of things here would not be here, it the point I'm trying to get at." Fernando begins. He continues, "You need to understand one of several things to get a puzzle together. 1) ETs exist. 2) There are good ETs and there are bad ETs. 3) Humanity is greedy for power and advancement that it will sign a pact with the devil to get what it wants. 4) I'm a Time Traveler, and am part of this world's Time Travel Enforcers against those who would try to alter history just to get rich, become famous or rescue a loved one. 5) Though the majority of ETs come to Earth with their Space Ships, some would come through a Time Corridor. I deal with the latter, not the former. 6) As such I dealt with the Council of 5. They want nothing more from us but to evolve on a spiritual and technological level so that we can make a decision in the future to join them and the 2500 in being one with the Creator - God to those who known him better. In doing so, no one ever has to die again, everyone lives in peace and everyone's a friend and family; even those who had died in the past, are created again and are reunited with their loved ones. But 7) Other ETs do not want us to attain that level. I believe these 'spirits' do not want us to ever reach that level. There were other ETs groups in the past that did not want us to reach that level and they were nearly wiped off the universe because of their greed and our ability to help ourselves when given the right equipment. I can spend the next 5 years telling you all this, if you do not want to listen, you will never get the message."
 
He pauses for a second, "But really. They altered your evolution. If left alone, you could have found someone and married them and had children, but that evolution will now never be created because they altered you, your life's mission and your way of thinking as to what is important. It is not they who are important, nor is it the Republic of Texas, but it is we as individual who are important. And they took that away from us. They took that away from Elsa. They took that away from everyone in this group. For them it is about a goal and about us completing that goal for them. For me I do not give a mutant rat's ass about completing a goal here and now especially for them, but I do care to do a job to save a person's life and where I can improve their living situation. Why else would I take Macey? So I can pin her down on a bed and do her lovely every night? Shit... a couple of silver coins in my pocket and I can buy some female whore out there if I was so desperate for some female companionship and sexual action. I might even attempt to hit you up for some sexual release, but that may never happen between us. But I'm not desperate for pussy, and my break up with Tammy has me wondering if that what you or any other female human got between your legs is worth the trials and tribulations you females put us males through. But that is not not about us or sex... this is about us in general and why are we here. I'm here to rescue people and save and improve lives, I'm not here to help some self-made gods accomplish a goal. If you want me to help you with the first, that is fine with me and I will do my best for you to get that done. If you want me to help you with the second, it is not going to happen. Understand that difference."
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Reply #589 - Mar 31st, 2016, 10:39am
 
Moro does not make any sense. This mission does not make sense. The fact Moro is avoiding questions gives Jeanette a reason to be suspicious. The only thing that makes sense is this: these environmentalists want to make the Earth a green place to live. At least in 2010 people in power talk about the environment because it makes them look good and the public's attention is drawn away from more important issues. From what Hikaru said and what Jeanette witnessed, these aliens appear to be sincere about the environment.
 
Fernando's words give Jeanette the impression he's into weird stuff. Mankind will solve most of the world's problems in forty years? Being one with God? Jeanette knows the latter is idolatry and the reason Lucifer was kicked out of Heaven. People are God's children; they are not and never will be one with Him.
 
Then there are these conclusions Fernando is coming to without asking questions or a means to support them that Jeanette is aware of. Admittedly Jeanette has done some of that; she strives to learn everything she can before making a judgment.
 
"You're forgetting that as of 2007 I'm not able to have children. We have drifted off the subject. I wanted to talk to you because I want to know if there is a way to verify that in 1803 the king of Arendelle forged an alliance with the Texas Spirits. All I have are facts that can be used to support the claim that cloaked ships were used to defend Arendelle. An alliance could explain why the Texas Spirits would defend Arendelle. Arendelle is protected from every attack made against them since the Napoleonic Wars without having the kingdom divided and the Texas Spirits get Elsa."
 
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