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After Chaos (Read 187686 times)
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Re: After Chaos
Reply #410 - Sep 20th, 2015, 10:53pm
 
(10 - 10:30 cst. 8 - 8:30 pst)
 
Hondo started some quick supper, beans and burgers. The air was getting a chill in it so Hondo figured some warm food would be good. He wasn't sure what time of year it was but it seemed like it might be april or may, which still brings a lot of cold weather up in the norther states. He had seen snow as late as june before and really hoped he wouldn't see any late snow this year. He could be mistaken too as the climate might just be cooler than it was when he was from. The humidity was lower due to not much standing water areas as there was from the timeline they left, which made the air not hold the warmth from the day as well, much like desert climates but not as drastic. Hondo heard the vehicles leave and looked outside, through a window, to check on Valentine. she was out by the bronco messing around so he finished making supper. He didn't know how lost she was feeling.
 
  Milo had probably told her too much and she knew it so she struggled about what to do. She knew he did it out of wanting a better relationship with his mother and she did push for it, but she almost wish she didn't have the responsibility of knowing what she now knew. She tried to calm her mind. She was determined to use the information right but she felt heart broken to think she would possibly hurt those she loved like that.
 
Hondo called out to her when the food was done but she just stood by the bronco unresponsive so he walked out.
 
Hondo: Val? Val? You ok.
 
He touched her shoulder which made her jump a bit. She sniffled and dried her eye's, trying to hide the tears from Hondo.  
 
Val: Oh! Sorry. was lost in thought.
 
Hondo: Whats the matter?
 
Val: You ever hear something you wish you didn't but did an' now hafta deal with handlin' the info right?
 
Hondo: yeah. What did you hear?
 
Val: I . . . I can't burden you with it. It's my problem to deal with anyway.
 
Hondo: Val, you can share anything with me. I love you.
 
Val: Don't say that. that only makes it worse. It's not what you think though. . . I can't . . . the info is . . . it's complicated. The more people that know . . . I just.
 
Hondo: Damn. One of our future sons told you something about our future, didn't they?
 
Val: It's partly my fault. I pressed. I just didn't expect . .  
 
Hondo sighed: We know too much already, damn them. I figured you, I, an' Jefe would have taught them better.
 
Val: It's not what you think. I . . . I wasn't a good mother or a good wife.
 
Hondo: What! I won't believe it!
 
Val: It's true. Something bad happened an' I hurt my relationship with the kids an' you too.
 
  Valentine hung her head, the tears started to flow again. Hondo pulled her to him.
 
Hondo: It's alright. You will do whats right, I know. Hell happens. you can't be blamed. No matter what I will love you.
 
Val: I . . I let you down! All of you!! I never thought . .. How could you love me after . . .
 
Hondo: Now you stop thinkin' like that! You probably did it to protect us. I know you. you'd never mean to hurt us.  
 
Val: But I did!
 
  Hondo pushed her back away from him enough to look her in the eyes. he held her firmly by the shoulders to keep her from turning away.
 
Hondo: You haven't done shit yet. You have the knowledge to change how you acted. If you know of events you must allow some events to happen. You must make certain things happen but you can change how people take what happens. You have the power to explain to the kids why you do what you do or change your tactics on how things get done. And as far as you and me, you have the ability to help make our relationship strong. How many people would love to know what they did wrong before it happens so they can fix it. I don't know what exactly you were told an' you have been trained like I have to know what is changeable without hurting the future. if you need someone else to talk to about this talk to Fernando.  
 
Val: Maybe you're right. I need to think. . . you think Fernando would listen an' help me?
 
Hondo: I know he would. You aren't the naive, experienced gal we first met. I know he is more my friend an' he was hard on you but it was for both of our sake. He cares about you. We are almost like family anymore. He's a bit gruff at times but it's cause he cares a lot. he won't admit it but he acts hard to keep folks on their toes and save lives.  
 
Val: I know. Rescuers hafta be on their toes an' act fast. emotional issues and anything that can distract a person needs dealt with fast. Don't worry. I won't let this effect me in the field. I am gettin' better at compartmentalizin'. It's hard though.
 
Hondo: Harder for women, I've heard. Different brain wiring.
 
Val: maybe.
 
Hondo knew she was not listening but thinking now as though true she wouldn't have just left that alone.
 
Hondo: Lets go eat before the food gets cold. Gettin' chilly out here anyway.
 
Val: Yeah. I am a bit cold . . . an' hungry.
 
 They headed back to the camper and ate supper in silence. Valentine hardly touched her food. she apologized and went to get a bath. They would hafta find a water source in the morning but she needed to relax and think. Hondo cleaned up from supper and then got his radios tuned up. He cleaned his guns and gun leather as he waited and listened for Fernando or someone to call out on the radio. Hondo had thoughts of his own as he waited. He wished he could help Valentine more but he knew sometimes a burden must be carried alone. This spirit deal also bothered him. Something just wasn't right about it all. Among the questions about them was, who were they, what did they want, and why did they not tell Hondo who was with Fernando? He hoped they got a hold of Fernando soon. He wanted answers and figured if they were to be had Fernando would have them. If he didn't have them they were all in for a wild ride.
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Well the cowboy, like the red man, you had to leave your land
You can't raise your stock and plant your crop in the gumbo and the sand
Greed disguised as progress has put us to the test
They won't be glad until we're gone from our home out in the west
It's sad to see those good old days replaced with greed and doubt
Soon we'll leave the country, the campfire has gone out
Bid 'em all adieu, you can't turn the world about
The cowboy left the country, the campfire has gone out
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Reply #411 - Sep 20th, 2015, 10:55pm
 
Jeanette is initially pleased with the idea. "Elsa would love that." She thinks about what Fernando is saying. "Wouldn't that alter the history further? The Texas Spirits altered history by bringing Elsa here. And while I hate the idea of separating sisters, the Texas Spirits seem to have done her kingdom a favor. Arendelle did not break up, it survived all those wars, the happening and chaos and it is now one of the three world powers. I simply don't know the details."
 
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Reply #412 - Sep 21st, 2015, 12:04am
 
"They separated you from your sisters. Keep that in mind when dealing with Elsa. Those Texas spirits need a size 12 1/5 EEE foot kicked up their asses to show them that they are going wrong. This is not about righting time nor is it setting things right. It is finding what is wrong in the here and now and doing one's best to correct those wrongs. With Elsa it is getting her and her sister together, not about Arendelle becoming a world power. With you, it's getting you back with your sisters, not that you are going to be running an orphanage in Texas well into your 70s and 80s. With Macey, it's getting her to be a normal girl again as much as possible. All these things are possible, though there might be problems and there will definitely be others that need help as well but it does not stop us from doing what needs to be done. I just need you to do your best no matter how bad it gets out there."
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Reply #413 - Sep 21st, 2015, 9:22am
 
"It's not pretty but it looks like a princess was sacrificed to save a kingdom. By 'sacrifice' I mean removed from said kingdom. I did say 'world power' but that's not the point. The point is, an entire nation has been saved. We may never know the individuals that were saved nor hear their names; lives were saved nonetheless.
 
"When we get to Charlton, I'll see my other self. We know, one way or the other, I'll be reunited with my sisters and you will bring Anna here. If Anna is brought here, who will be the next queen? Ingrid?"
 
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Reply #414 - Sep 21st, 2015, 11:47am
 
"Elsa was not sacrificed to save a kingdom. It is worst than you dare think, she was sacrificed to alleviate their fears of her abilities. The same thing was done to Prince Albert, first son of Queen Victoria and prime suspect of the Jack The Ripper Murders. Being the asshole idiot playboy he was, he caught syphilis which at the time had no cure, and it eventually went to his brain. He was also a Morphine and Heroine addict. At that time he would sneak out and frequent the whore houses in the same areas and time as the Jack The Ripper Murders, and on several occasions he was brought home a bloody mess. Finding out about this, Queen Victoria had Prince Albert put into an mental asylum, and later put to sleep with an overdose of Morphine. To satisfy the news media, it was said he died from appendicitis. Queen Victoria died and then her second son Prince Edward took over the throne and then he abdicated, giving the throne to Prince George, father of Queen Elizabeth." He explains.
 
"Bringing Anna here is not gong to change what happens then if she is sent back at the time she left. Same with Elsa, for when this is over and she is 'cured', will be sent back to her time. Ingrid is not even in the picture at this point. This is not about her (Ingrid) or Anna or you or me or any individual. It is about us doing what we can in helping those who need it. Macey needs is in those things I asked and perhaps more. Elsa needs is in what we can do for her to learn control, and so on with the others. We need to be parents to these girls, and as their parents, we need to be the example they are to follow. You need to be a mother to these kids, as I need to be a father, and all this on top of what rescue and emergency medical work we do. So excuse me in saying this, if I have Macey or any of the others over my lap with their panties pulled down to their knees and my hand slapping their ass, it is something I am doing as a father - giving them a spanking they so deserve for disrespecting any of us and the rules we set as a family. There is nothing sexual in this. But most importantly, we need to do things together as parents to these girls."
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Reply #415 - Sep 21st, 2015, 3:17pm
 
"Let's look at what we do know. In 1816 people froze to death, not just Napoleon's army, and Arendelle exists no more. The Texas Spirits brought Elsa here and because they did, Hikaru remembers a different history: one where Elsa never became queen and the kingdom survives. If the fears of Elsa's abilities have any role in this, we can assume the royal family and the Texas Spirits had a private meeting.
 
"If returning Elsa to her time results in a kingdom destroyed and people dying, what help have we done? And if we're sending everyone back to their time, then we need to send Chihiro and the author Shizuku Tsukishima back to their time, assuming we find Shizuku."
 
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Reply #416 - Sep 21st, 2015, 4:10pm
 
"How can you say that the spirits and Elsa's parents had a meeting of any kind? There is not enough evidence to deduce that. Just like they took Chihiro, did they talk with her parents about doing so? Did they confer with your family? No they didn't. And they acted on their own with me." Fernando begins.
 
He continues, "And people are going to die no matter what you or I say or do. People died in the year without summer, granted. But if they fought Napoleon and defended their nation, how many died in comparison? More? Less? And who, the same people or different people? Initially those farmers at the border and their families would be killed off first in such a war but in the year without summer they probably survived. So you can not say that one is better than the other. I'm sure many more died in war than in a frozen drought. Is that a price you want to pay to have a dead nation survive? And what about WWI and WWII? Being on the front lines ahead of the others, Finland defended its borders against Germany in WWII. It cost Finland 1.2million of their people, but they killed 10 times as many Germans and much of that was because the Germans froze to death during the Finlandian winters. How would Arendelle feel about losing that many people? Just look at it this way - why are the Spirits from Texas involving themselves in the events and changing them about so that there is a very specific outcome? What is their vested interest with earth? They need to get onto their stinking little spaceships and leave before the temporal police comes in and sets the events into their proper history, even if mankind renders this third rock from the sun into a burning ash of nuclear waste. My interest in all this is setting what is right for mankind even if he burns himself doing so. There is a saying within the Intragalactic Council of Intelligent Life, which says, '15,000 species, 5 universes, 1 intelligent consciousness.' The Council wants us to be part of that consciousness but we need to pass certain tests to get there and make choices to get there."
 
He pauses or a moment.
 
"Of the all the billions of races in the universe, you can break them up into 2 kinds - those with  Soul Matrix and those without. Man, Primates, Canines, Felines, and other high order animals have a Soul Matrix. Lizards, Amphibians, Birds do not have a Soul Matrix. All, both sets of races can and do have intelligence on a high order of magnitude, but those with a Soul Matrix can ascend to a higher plane and those without it can not. This is the reason why I am so against these so-called spirits. Birds do not have a Soul Matrix, therefore can not have a spirit. So how can they be a spirit, liken to a god? Now enough of this dribble. We got work to do, do not look for excuses to research something to death. I am here for you and the girls. Any of you here for me? Think about it. So excuse my 'take no prisoners' attitude, unless you got anything to say or ask, this conversation is over because we got a job to do."
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Reply #417 - Sep 21st, 2015, 6:10pm
 
"How can I say what I said? You, not I, said Elsa was not sacrificed to save a kingdom but was sacrificed to alleviate their fears of her ability. If my assumption, built on what you said, is incorrect then what is correct?
 
"I deduce, based on the limited information presented to me, that it is the Japanese Spirits, not the Texas Spirits, who brought Chihiro to this time.
 
"True. We don't know how many lives were saved or lost in our time line compared to this time line. What we do know is Arendelle is one of the three nations in this world that survived the apocalypse and from what I'm learning, that is saying a lot. Moreover, a nation cannot survive if it does not have people. As for why, that goes along with the unanswered question we discussed an hour ago.
 
"If you put it that way, I rather have the Spirits here than have mankind render the third rock from the sun to a burning ask of nuclear waste.
 
"Okay. Let's ask one of the Spirits to transform into something else." Jeanette does not like the direction this conversation is headed so she grabs the bull by the horns. Jeanette opens the side door. "Spirits! One of you needs to get your tail in this Camper right now!"
 
A crow flies through the door and lands on the floor of the Camper.
 
Jeanette closes the door. "Show yourself in your true form."
 
The Spirit does as Jeanette asks. The being, in the form of a crow, morphs into an adult Japanese male. He has black hair, with some grey, and is wearing a black suit. "Surprised?" He asks in English.
 
"Yes . . . no, wait . . . the Spirit who contacted me a few weeks ago said, through a limited form of communication, the Texas Spirits are descendants of the Japanese Spirits."
 
"That is correct."
 
Note: I should be the one to handle questions about Jeanette, Chihiro or their families.
 
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Reply #418 - Sep 21st, 2015, 7:35pm
 
"Elsa as put away because they were scared of her. Even you stated that. How she got here is unknown to anyone, so you can not say that the spirits 'had a meeting with her parents to take her away.' As far as we know, she was taken. As you were taken, as Chihiro was taken, as I was taken. When we all return to our respective times, no one in the past will be wiser to what had happened to us. All they know is that we are still there." He begins.
 
"If you prefer that the spirits to destroy the world, then wish granted enemy of humanity. I will give you a living hell where leaving it through suicide will be your only option. This conversation is over." He tells her. Then he turns to the spirit, "Alioquin interficiam te opinio falsa relinquere coram eo loco."
 
The spirit looks at him with concern as he does the translation in his head but Fernando throws at him, " あなたが立ってどこに偽の人私はあなたを殺す前に、私の見解を残します。"
 
The spirit suddenly leaves in an explosion of feathers, smoke and bright light.
 
Fernando opens the door side of the camper, "Know that the devil is the prince of lies and he will take on any form to get you to do his bidding. You fell for his act and accepted it as your own. You had forgotten the one rule - Evil will do what is as to do to force you to do what you want to do. Good gives you the option to take it or leave it. Enjoy these days after The Rapture, because here is where you are going to stay. Now excuse while I get vulgar."
 
He walks out of the camper and to the gas camper where he takes the red radio flyer wagon from within with just a gesture of his hand. With another gesture the chest with the money and shotgun shells comes out of it's hiding place and onto the wagon, which then rolls to the solar camper...
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Reply #419 - Sep 21st, 2015, 8:18pm
 
"Ah, that is what you meant. Got it." Jeanette refers to what Fernando said about Elsa. She steps out of the Camper. "Destroy the world? Enemy of humanity? You talk about setting things right even if that means humanity destroying its self. That does not sound like setting things right to me."
 
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