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Re: After Chaos
Reply #2540 - Mar 28th, 2018, 12:13am
 
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Quote from Jeanette on Mar 27th, 2018, 9:47pm:
Quote from Fernando on Mar 27th, 2018, 2:03am:
The point of argument is the conversation between Fernando and Roland. Were any of the Texas Spirits around to listen in? And why are they listening in?

Since Fernando did not mention the Texas Spirits by name, why should any of them be offended by what Fernando said? Fernando knows what he said and who he was talking about, anyone listening in can only speculate who Fernando was talking about by looking at those doing what he said and it would be a very long stretch to point a finger at anyone doing what Fernando said. If the Texas Spirits are offended by Fernando words, then it is because the actions Fernando stated are the same actions the Texas Spirits are taking. In this response you are taking as the Texas Spirit’s writer infers that which is their actions stated here.

The Texas Spirits were not listening in. The note was from me to you, writer to writer.

When Fernando says something in opposition to what was established, I don't know if it is because you the writer had forgotten what was established or if Fernando is being Fernando.

As for the rest of the post, you seem to be contradicting yourself. Therefore I don't know how to respond.

By the way, I'm leaving to go out of town a few days starting Thursday morning and I don't know how much time I will have Wednesday.

Jeanette Isabelle

 
Writer to writer:
 
This is Fernando being Fernando. Period. This is who he is and what he does. Period.
 
In this conversation with Roland, Fernando has not mentioned a word about the Texas Spirits by name or by pointing them out.
 
So why does the writer of the Texas Spirits have to worry about? Is it too much like the Texas Spirits that it makes you uncomfortable? It shouldn’t, especially since it is about those who do such work without asking and think they deserve a reward. That is being mercenary, not a rescuer. That is the difference between what Hondo, Fernando and Jeanette do and what the Texas Spirits are doing. Fernando and Hondo do not expect a reward for any of the rescue work they do. Neither should Jeanette. But yet the Texas Spirits do? There is something seriously wrong with that mind set.
 
Rewards are to be given when earned, not when they are expected.
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Re: After Chaos
Reply #2541 - Mar 28th, 2018, 12:42am
 
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It was silent for a while as Fernando and Roland had their meal.
 
“Where should I drop you off at, First Lab Town, Second Larger Lab Town or at Fight Town?” Fernando asks.
 
“I can send myself back with my staff.” Roland answers.
 
Fernando reaches between the driver and passenger seats, retrieving Roland’s staff. He gives a look over before activating it and handing it to Roland. “Amazing Solipis Rey technology, but dangerous in the wrong hands. Don’t let anyone take it from you, except for me. I had to reprogram its DNA Recognition program to accept certain members of this group to be able to take it when needed, anyone else taking it will get a nasty shock when they grab it.” Fernando tells her.
 
Roland gives a nod before he speaks off subject, “This does not taste like preprocessed proteins.”
 
“Your taste buds are more in tuned now that your DNA anomalies have been repaired. If you like, you can eat regular food like a normal person.” Fernando explains.
 
“I see.” Roland says.
 
“So, when do you intend to leave?” Fernando asks.
 
“I will leave for the Hive after the last vehicle on the convoy leaves.” Roland answers.
 
“That would be me.” Fernando replies.
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Reply #2542 - Mar 28th, 2018, 7:56am
 
Quote from Fernando on Mar 28th, 2018, 12:13am:
So why does the writer of the Texas Spirits have to worry about?

I already answered that question.
 
Quote from Jeanette on Mar 27th, 2018, 9:47pm:
When Fernando says something in opposition to what was established, I don't know if it is because you the writer had forgotten what was established or if Fernando is being Fernando.

Quote from Fernando on Mar 28th, 2018, 12:13am:
Is it too much like the Texas Spirits that it makes you uncomfortable? It shouldn’t, especially since it is about those who do such work without asking and think they deserve a reward.

I don't know why you bring that up because that is not what Fernando said in the passage I quoted.
 
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Re: After Chaos
Reply #2543 - Mar 28th, 2018, 5:15pm
 
Quote from FernandoCharacter on Mar 22nd, 2018, 10:53pm:
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“It was either them or us.” Fernando begins, “I know that there are some on Earth claiming to be spirits, and helpers of man or messengers of god, but they are not. Nor do I care if they are. God gave man the right of free-will to do as he pleases, we are not meant to be enslaved by another race like some of them have. And all that will be taken cared off, in time. May happen tomorrow, may happen next year or it may happen a thousand years later, but there will come a time when those from other star systems will no longer be on this Earth. God gave this world to man, not to some being not from this rock to enslave man with promises of deliverance to eternity for that is a one-way ticket to Hell.…”

 
Quote from FernandoCharacter on Mar 22nd, 2018, 10:53pm:
“Let me explain it this way. Roland. Rewards are given, though they are often earned. But there are many times when rewards are given for no apparent reason. And some think that they deserve a reward for what they believe they have done though they deserve nothing. Now, this is a reward for the work you are going to do for both the communities and the Hives.” Fernando tells him.

 
Where in this are the Texas Spirits mentioned by name?
 
Fernando is pointing out who and what who is doing, and who expects what from it. If the Texas Spirits or you as their writer believe that they are unduly being accused of such actions, then you and they should reflect upon those actions and expectations they think they are going to gain. Again – if one thinks that they can go forth to take action, and expect to be rewarded for that action, then that is the mindset of a mercenary. God is not going to reward anyone who thinks they are going to be rewarded for taking action for doing such work in his name when it was not sanctioned. The Jews think and many even believe that the WWII Holocaust was God’s test upon them. In the Spirits rescuing Jews from the Concentration Camps, they have went against God and his test of the Jews.
 
Since this has been stated, it cannot be changed through a Reboot. Millions more will be killed by a ReBoot action so it is better to leave it alone.
 
That is all I have to say on the subject.
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Reply #2544 - Mar 28th, 2018, 6:52pm
 
I don't know why you are bringing in material that I have not quoted or addressed.
 
The following is the note that I wrote to you:
 
Quote from Jeanette on Mar 23rd, 2018, 8:37am:
Quote from Fernando on Mar 22nd, 2018, 10:53pm:
“I know that there are some on Earth claiming to be spirits, and helpers of man or messengers of god, but they are not.

Note:

Let's go over this again. While this may be true about another group, the Spirits our party is with never made such a claim.

One, it was ancient humanity who called these people "Spirits."

Two, except for blessing the Israelites because of Genisis 12:3, they never claimed to be helpers of man. Setting that aside, I wonder if you are confusing helping the earth with helping man.

Three, unless you count quoting the Bible, they never delivered a single message from God.

Quote from Fernando on Mar 22nd, 2018, 10:53pm:
God gave man the right of free-will to do as he pleases, we are not meant to be enslaved by another race like some of them have.

If this is about the Texas Spirits, they do not enslave humanity.

Here is the reason I wrote you that note:
 
Quote from Jeanette on Mar 27th, 2018, 9:47pm:
When Fernando says something in opposition to what was established, I don't know if it is because you the writer had forgotten what was established or if Fernando is being Fernando.

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Re: After Chaos
Reply #2545 - Mar 28th, 2018, 11:10pm
 
Quote from Jeanette on Mar 28th, 2018, 6:52pm:
I don't know why you are bringing in material that I have not quoted or addressed.

The following is the note that I wrote to you:

Quote from Jeanette on Mar 23rd, 2018, 8:37am:
Quote from Fernando on Mar 22nd, 2018, 10:53pm:
“I know that there are some on Earth claiming to be spirits, and helpers of man or messengers of god, but they are not.

Note:

Let's go over this again. While this may be true about another group, the Spirits our party is with never made such a claim.

One, it was ancient humanity who called these people "Spirits."

Two, except for blessing the Israelites because of Genisis 12:3, they never claimed to be helpers of man. Setting that aside, I wonder if you are confusing helping the earth with helping man.

Three, unless you count quoting the Bible, they never delivered a single message from God.

Quote from Fernando on Mar 22nd, 2018, 10:53pm:
God gave man the right of free-will to do as he pleases, we are not meant to be enslaved by another race like some of them have.

If this is about the Texas Spirits, they do not enslave humanity.

Here is the reason I wrote you that note:

Quote from Jeanette on Mar 27th, 2018, 9:47pm:
When Fernando says something in opposition to what was established, I don't know if it is because you the writer had forgotten what was established or if Fernando is being Fernando.

Jeanette Isabelle

 
Then why are you thinking what Fernando says involves the Texas Spirits? This is a guilt complex that you (and they through you as their writer) have. Let’s keep going with the RPG and leave this dead end discussion. This is a moot point.
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Reply #2546 - Apr 3rd, 2018, 2:46am
 
Both Roland and Fernando take their time in ingesting their meal, taking as long as those inside of outside the meal tent. A few at a time begin to go to their vehicles for a last minute check list run, and those in front of the convoy line begins to position themselves in place. Though there are still some eating, ant there is still food left over, General Jastrey’s men begin the task of taking down the meal camp, leaving the meal tent for last for those inside to finish their meals.
 
The cooks and meal attendants begin to create take out bags of individual meals and drinks for those wanting them. General Jastrey gets a list of those of Fernando and Jeanette’s group for such packages. The House Mother gets a large package to feed her brood either enroute or as an added item to the morning’s breakfast. A smaller package went to Joanna and Ruth for their group, Maribelle’s group received a fitting package for them. Jeanette’s group and Hondo’s group were still in the meal tens, if they are to receive any packages, then they would get them inside the tent.
 
General Jastrey walks over to Fernando’s Electric Bus with a ‘care package’ to give him. She finds him alone as he checks his vehicle and secures loose items.
 
“Roland left?” General Jastrey asks.
 
“He’s somewhere nearby.” Fernando answers.
 
“Then this is for you and your ‘daughter.’” General Jastrey hands him.
 
“I already have meal package you gave me from before.” Fernando points out.
 
“We had extra, so we are giving them out as ‘care packages.’ You can eat them along the way or store them for breakfast or lunch tomorrow. The choice is yours.” General Jastrey explains.
 
“Thank you.” Fernando tells her as he takes the added food from her.
 
Macey walks towards and around them, getting into the electric bus. Hondo approaches them in the same route Macey too but stops when he gets here. He nods at Fernando.
 
“We’re ready?” Hondo asks.
 
“Not sure about the others but I am. You?” Fernando asks.
 
“Just need to hop in and roll.” Hondo says.
 
General Jastrey goes into her pull cart and pulls out about 8 care packages, holding them out to Hondo, “These are for you and your group.”
 
“I already have food for from the tent.” Hondo tells her.
 
“Take it, Hondo. Less pressure on you to cook as you need to drive and take care of the girls. Also, we need you to take it easy. We will get Val back before the end of the week, if not sooner.” Fernando tells him.
 
Hondo nods, and then not wanting too takes the bagged meals from General Jastrey. Fernando closes the side door to his camper and head to the front of it, opening the passenger door. Hondo continues to walk around Fernando Dub Box Camper to his camper and trailer. Entering from behind, he ends up near the kitchen area where he can put away the added food. In a couple of minutes he is finished securing his vehicle, and is in the driver’s seat cranking over the engine. It starts up, followed by the lights and other items the vehicle has. The seat behind his was folded out into a bed for Zoe to sleep in while Tonya drives Val’s vehicle.
 
The radios are one of the last things turned on as engines are warned up. On CB Channel 38, the military takes a roll call of present vehicles for the convoy. They announce themselves and their destinations, where a few are going to Fight Town with Fernando, Hondo and the rest of the group; the others are going into larger Lab Town for intel gathering, while others are going to position themselves out to ‘Location Delta’, an undisclosed place where the attack on Lab Town will be launched from.
 
The convoy will be as fast as their slowest vehicle, so the Kharkovchankas are allowed to go ahead of the group. These Armored Tank Treaded vehicles, though they can go over 65, they will be going slower as to check and clear out the road ahead of any obstacles in the convoy’s way. Several other military vehicles are next to roll out, from tanks, to armored personnel carriers to food and supply trucks. An army travels on its stomach, and the supply trucks leaving in a large group proves that. The first of the civilian vehicles begin to roll out into the convoy’s formation. By the time it takes for Hondo and Fernando to get on the convoy line, more than a half hour had passed.
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Reply #2547 - Apr 3rd, 2018, 9:32am
 
Quote from Hondo I. Sackett on Mar 26th, 2018, 10:44pm:
As far the a new Charlton, no. Revelations only speaks of a new Jerusalem, no other city being new.

The Texas Spirits would rather have their ancient city than a new one. According to Revelation 16:17-20 and Revelation 21:1, Charlton will be destroyed. I considered science fiction solutions; Charlton is too big to be a city ship and a dome shield would not be able to protect Charlton from the seventh bowl (vial according to the KJV).
 
During the weekend trip, another science fiction solution occurred to me. Before the seventh trumpet, transport the entire walled section of Charlton through time.
 
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Reply #2548 - Apr 3rd, 2018, 9:42pm
 
One of the last things Jeanette does is to record that day's events in her journal.
 
Though Jeanette wrote more, part of that entry is missing. The following is what ended up in the published journal:
 
May 7, 2066
If I accept their immortality offer (needed to write this journal), Fernando will remove the Texas Spirits from existence. If I do not write the journal, Charlton and millions of people will cease to exist. Need a new plan.
Confused about religion in Charlton. Do Gentile Christians live in Charlton? If not, something's off. My interpretation: Charlton is a Torah state, not a Jewish state.
Wesens, Marvin and his cousins (La La and Li Li), join the party.
Zoey ran off. Moro locates Zoey using life signs detector.

 
Despite having all the time in the world, the Texas Spirits were unable to come up with a Plan C needed for the journal to exist.
 
Moro was there when Jeanette stepped out of the Beetle Dub Box. "Have you written your journal entry for today?"
 
"Yes." Jeanette answers.
 
"Good. I wanted to address your confusion. You are right in your assumption that Charlton is a Torah state and not a Jewish state. Therefore anyone, Jew or Gentile, may live in Charlton."
 
"I figured that; I wasn't sure what is meant by that. Does Charlton have and enforce the rules that are in the Torah?"
 
"Some rules only apply in Israel. Other rules only apply if there's either a tabernacle or temple and Levitical priesthood. We enforce everything else."
 
"Let me see if I have this right." Jeanette enquires. "Essentially you've outlawed pagan practices, worshiping idols, using God's Name lightly, murder, theft and adultery?"
 
"That and a few other things, yeah."
 
Jeanette moves to another topic. "Not in those exact words; essentially I recorded in my journal that I will not be accepting immortality and yet, you're still here. We're still here. Did you come up with a new plan?"
 
"No." Moro answers. "We were unable to come up with anything."
 
"Clearly there is a lot I don't understand. Everyone is still here."
 
"The journal still exists."
 
"How is that possible if I am not around to write it?"
 
"Wilbur Robinson kidnapped you when you were ten-years-old." Moro retrieves her mobile device and accesses the results from the life signs detector. There is one blip on the screen labeled Jeanette Isabelle Miller. Moro zooms out and now there are two. "Wilbur took you to the city of Penn Springs, located on the Charlton railroad, which is where you are living now."
 
Jeanette recognizes the name Penn Springs as a town from Texas that could not exist in this timeline since Charlton occupies that plot of land. "The alternate me is living in Penn Springs?"
 
"Correction. The fifteen-year-old girl in Penn Springs is from this timeline. You are the one who is from an alternate timeline."
 
"Why didn't you put a stop to it? First I find out that Wilbur is a pedophile and now you're telling me that he's a time-traveling kidnapper? Who knows what he has done to the Jeanette of this timeline."
 
"I'm not supposed to tell you this; you told us not to interfere." Moro answers.
 
"In the journal?"
 
"Yes."
 
"Why on earth would the Jeanette of this timeline or I tell you not to interfere?" Jeanette stops to consider something. "If I didn't accept immortality, which of us wrote the journal?"
 
"I can't answer any of those questions. There is something I think I can tell you now. The Jeanette of this timeline became an Immortal a year ago at the age of fourteen." Moro reveals a CD she has concealed and gave it to Jeanette. "The Jeanette of this timeline is an internationally famous classical singer."
 
Jeanette accepts the CD. On the cover is her permanently fourteen-year-old self. The Jeanette of this timeline uses her first and middle name, Jeanette Isabelle, as her stage name. "I will listen to this as soon as I get the chance. I only use my voice for a novelty act. There's no way I could be an internationally famous classical singer."
 
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Reply #2549 - Apr 4th, 2018, 12:06am
 
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Both Roland and Fernando take their time in ingesting their meal, taking as long as those inside of outside the meal tent. A few at a time begin to go to their vehicles for a last minute check list run, and those in front of the convoy line begins to position themselves in place. Though there are still some eating, ant there is still food left over, General Jastrey’s men begin the task of taking down the meal camp, leaving the meal tent for last for those inside to finish their meals.
 
The cooks and meal attendants begin to create take out bags of individual meals and drinks for those wanting them. General Jastrey gets a list of those of Fernando and Jeanette’s group for such packages. The House Mother gets a large package to feed her brood either enroute or as an added item to the morning’s breakfast. A smaller package went to Joanna and Ruth for their group, Maribelle’s group received a fitting package for them. Jeanette’s group and Hondo’s group were still in the meal tens, if they are to receive any packages, then they would get them inside the tent.
 
General Jastrey walks over to Fernando’s Electric Bus with a ‘care package’ to give him. She finds him alone as he checks his vehicle and secures loose items.
 
“Roland left?” General Jastrey asks.
 
“He’s somewhere nearby.” Fernando answers.
 
“Then this is for you and your ‘daughter.’” General Jastrey hands him.
 
“I already have meal package you gave me from before.” Fernando points out.
 
“We had extra, so we are giving them out as ‘care packages.’ You can eat them along the way or store them for breakfast or lunch tomorrow. The choice is yours.” General Jastrey explains.
 
“Thank you.” Fernando tells her as he takes the added food from her.
 
Macey walks towards and around them, getting into the electric bus. Hondo approaches them in the same route Macey too but stops when he gets here. He nods at Fernando.
 
“We’re ready?” Hondo asks.
 
“Not sure about the others but I am. You?” Fernando asks.
 
“Just need to hop in and roll.” Hondo says.
 
General Jastrey goes into her pull cart and pulls out about 8 care packages, holding them out to Hondo, “These are for you and your group.”
 
“I already have food for from the tent.” Hondo tells her.
 
“Take it, Hondo. Less pressure on you to cook as you need to drive and take care of the girls. Also, we need you to take it easy. We will get Val back before the end of the week, if not sooner.” Fernando tells him.
 
Hondo nods, and then not wanting too takes the bagged meals from General Jastrey. Fernando closes the side door to his camper and head to the front of it, opening the passenger door. Hondo continues to walk around Fernando Dub Box Camper to his camper and trailer. Entering from behind, he ends up near the kitchen area where he can put away the added food. In a couple of minutes he is finished securing his vehicle, and is in the driver’s seat cranking over the engine. It starts up, followed by the lights and other items the vehicle has. The seat behind his was folded out into a bed for Zoe and Kitty to sleep in while Tonya rides ‘Shotgun’ next to Hondo in his truck. James and Red Molly drive Val’s Truck, positioning themselves in front of Hondo’s truck.
 
The radios are one of the last things turned on as engines are warned up. On CB Channel 38, the military takes a roll call of present vehicles for the convoy. They announce themselves and their destinations, where a few are going to Fight Town with Fernando, Hondo and the rest of the group; the others are going into larger Lab Town for intel gathering, while others are going to position themselves out to ‘Location Delta’, an undisclosed place where the attack on Lab Town will be launched from.
 
The convoy will be as fast as their slowest vehicle, so the Kharkovchankas are allowed to go ahead of the group. These Armored Tank Treaded vehicles, though they can go over 65, they will be going slower as to check and clear out the road ahead of any obstacles in the convoy’s way. Several other military vehicles are next to roll out, from tanks, to armored personnel carriers to food and supply trucks. An army travels on its stomach, and the supply trucks leaving in a large group proves that. The first of the civilian vehicles begin to roll out into the convoy’s formation. By the time it takes for Hondo and Fernando to get on the convoy line, more than a half hour had passed.
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