Quote from Fernando on Mar 24^th, 2018, 12:31am:

I know you brought up this subject before; as I think about it, this is something that the three world powers (Arendelle, Israel and Japan) can do. I don't know how to work that in the story. If you do, go for it.
 
Edited to correct grammar.
 
Jeanette Isabelle

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Quote from Jeanette on Mar 25^th, 2018, 8:26am:

 
This remains to be seen.
 

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Quote from Jeanette on Mar 25^th, 2018, 12:26pm:

 
 
The problem with quoting scriptures is that people want to get out of it that they want from it – reading what they want to see in it and not what it there. In reading Genesis 12:3, you need to read that which is before and after it to get the complete message.
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This message and this blessing was for Abram and Abram only. It is not for anyone else other than Abram. It is only for Abram because he wanted Abram to leave his home and his land to go to where God has shown him. And if Abram listened and did as God told him, he would be blessed. Nowhere does this say it is for anyone else.
 
Historically speaking, the Land of Canaan is the old name for Israel, and the Canaanites were the original Jews. It is, I’m guessing, 500 – 1000 years before Moses. And Archeological proof of the lands shown that the first Jews were indeed there; part of it – proof of the bones of the animals they ate did not include pigs/pork.
 
Now; in the King James “Easy Reading” version of the bible, where the passes are linked to others, for Gen 12:3 is linked too: Galatians 3:8
 
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This translates to that who are Jewish (follower of Abraham), and follow Jewish law can only be blessed if they faithfully follow Abraham’s teachings and being part of the Twelve Tribes of Israel.
 
The Texas Spirits are not and never have been a member of the Twelve Tribes of Israel. Thus the blessings of God in helping the Jews do not apply to them.
 
The thing with Genesis 12:3 is that it was only meant for Abram, no one else. It is in the past tense and part of history, and does not carry out further to others out into the future. Galatians 3:6 only reinforces that this blessings and any blessings thereafter that can stem from Genesis 12:3 is only for the Jews. Here is where the “Texas Spirits” are locked out of this blessing.
 

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As I stated before, the conversation between Fernando and Roland is only between Fernando and Roland. If the Texas Spirits has a spy nearby listening in, and are offended by what Fernando is saying even though Fernando is talking in general terms and not in specifically about anyone. If they find that such words are emotionally offensive, then they believe that something is owed to them from God. God does not reward anyone on earth. The only reward God gives is passage to Heaven. But if the Texas Spirits are so interested in a material reward and not a spiritual reward, then as far as Fernando cares, they can have it and then spend the rest of eternity burning in hell for it.

Quote from Fernando on Mar 25^th, 2018, 10:53pm:

I know that. Genisis 12:3 is in the context of Genisis 12:1-3. The fact that God's entire dialog to Abram is within Verses 1-3 does suggest that those three verses form a complete thought. Moreover, the fact our Bible teacher (who covers entire books of the Bible on average of one chapter per lesson) uses a whole session to go over those three verses is an additional testimony to Genisis 12:1-3 being one concept.
 
http://www.torahclass.com/old-testament-studies-tc/34-old-testament-studies-gene sis/86-lesson-11-chapter12
 
I zoomed in on Verse 3 because here is where we find the conditional blessings and curses of anyone who is not a Hebrew.
 
Quote from Fernando on Mar 25^th, 2018, 10:53pm:

"And I will bless you that bless yourself, and curse you that curseth yourself: and in thee shall you be blessed." Is that what God is saying to Abram? No, of course not! That is not what God is saying.
 
Quote from Fernando on Mar 25^th, 2018, 10:53pm:

"And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee:" Who are the words "them" and "him" referring?
 
Quote from Fernando on Mar 25^th, 2018, 10:53pm:

A non-Hebrew can be grafted in through faith and acceptance; that is for a different discussion.
 
Quote from Fernando on Mar 25^th, 2018, 10:53pm:

Again, who are "them" and "him" referring to in Genisis 12:3?
 
Quote from Fernando on Mar 25^th, 2018, 10:53pm:

Does "them" and "him" refer to Abram?
 
Quote from Fernando on Mar 25^th, 2018, 10:53pm:

How can something only be for one individual (Abram) and that same thing for a group of people (the Jews)? And how can something that is just apart of history be reinforced later in Galatians?
 
Quote from Fernando on Mar 25^th, 2018, 10:53pm:

4 Have we not power to eat and to drink?
5 Have we not power to lead about a sister, a wife, as well as other apostles, and as the brethren of the Lord, and Cephas?
6 Or I only and Barnabas, have not we power to forbear working?
7 Who goeth a warfare any time at his own charges? who planteth a vineyard, and eateth not of the fruit thereof? or who feedeth a flock, and eateth not of the milk of the flock?
8 Say I these things as a man? or saith not the law the same also?
9 For it is written in the law of Moses, thou shalt not muzzle the mouth of the ox that treadeth out the corn. Doth God take care for oxen?
10 Or saith he it altogether for our sakes? For our sakes, no doubt, this is written: that he that ploweth should plow in hope; and that he that thresheth in hope should be partaker of his hope.
11 If we have sown unto you spiritual things, is it a great thing if we shall reap your carnal things?
12 If others be partakers of this power over you, are not we rather? Nevertheless we have not used this power; but suffer all things, lest we should hinder the gospel of Christ.
13 Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar?
14 Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel. -- 1 Corinthians 9:4-14
 
I know this is a long passage; I chose it to keep it in context. Other passages say the same thing: what you sow is what you reap. I think this passage does a better job delivering that point. Though different versions make 1 Corinthians 9:4-14 more clear, I know Hondo at least would prefer that I use the King James Version. That's fine. I use the KJV at times because I use the same version the speaker (teacher, scholar, pastor) is using at the time.
 
Since the Texas Spirits are sowing both physical and spiritual blessings, shouldn't they reap both physical and spiritual blessings? When the Texas Spirits rescue the Jews, they would have to provide for their physical needs (food, clothing, shelter) until they can get back on their feet. When the Texas Spirits defend Israel, isn't that spiritual? I did not think so at first. Previously my line of thinking was if they physically protect Israel, they should get a physical blessing. While the Texas Spirits did physically safeguard Israel, Israel, however, is God's land. Because Israel is God's land, doesn't this become a spiritual matter?
 
Last night I was working on another story post to address something Hondo said in his notes: "so to think Charlton could be an 'protected' as a second 'new Jerusalem' is neigh blasphemous!" I wanted to put Hondo's concern of Charlton being a second New Jerusalem to rest. As I worked on it, something did not seem right though I could not pinpoint what that was. It was getting late. Therefore, I saved it to work on it the next day. Today I understood the problem. I was applying a carnal solution to where it does not belong. There's a reason why God is creating a new earth. Therefore, to rebuild Charlton as it once was goes against God creating a new earth. What then is the answer? Would God establish New Charlton or would He want these people to live in New Jerusalem? I don't have the answer.
 
Jeanette Isabelle

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Quote from Jeanette on Mar 26^th, 2018, 2:45pm:

 
Let’s cut right here and go back to square one.
 
1) The conversation is between Fernando and Roland only.
2) The Texas Spirits were never mentioned.
3) People believe that they deserve rewards for the action they do, as Fernando stated.
 
Thus if people believe that they should be rewarded for doing their damn job, then they should go look for another job elsewhere because the work of rescuing people is not rewarding. One is not going to acquire fame nor fortune for their deeds as a rescuer.
 
Those seeking reward for the jobs they do in rescuing others are nothing than mercenaries.  
 
This is how the Texas Spirits are doing and behaving. “Save a few Jews, and god will reward us with a blessing.” How wrong is that? It is totally wrong.
 
God has not rewarded anyone with physical rewards since the time of Christ. God, through Christ only rewards those worthy by ascension into Heaven. One can have the shittiest life on earth, but if they prevail in God’s work on earth and believe in that it is only through Jesus Christ that they can go to heaven, then they will be rewarded in the afterlife. If they think and take action to do such work thinking that they would be rewarded in life or the afterlife for their “good deeds” will only end up burning in hell, even if they have acquired comfort and reward in life for their actions.
 
So what are the Spirits working for? To acquire God’s blessings? They will get none. But this is not the point of argument.
 
The point of argument is the conversation between Fernando and Roland. Were any of the Texas Spirits around to listen in? And why are they listening in?
 
Since Fernando did not mention the Texas Spirits by name, why should any of them be offended by what Fernando said? Fernando knows what he said and who he was talking about, anyone listening in can only speculate who Fernando was talking about by looking at those doing what he said and it would be a very long stretch to point a finger at anyone doing what Fernando said. If the Texas Spirits are offended by Fernando words, then it is because the actions Fernando stated are the same actions the Texas Spirits are taking. In this response you are taking as the Texas Spirit’s writer infers that which is their actions stated here.
 
So, as both character and writer, Fernando will say this – “Mind your own bee’s wax. This is not about you or the Texas Spirits. It is about those who think they deserve rewards for their deeds and actions should receive nothing. Rewards are to be given because they were earned, not expected. Know the difference.”

Quote from Fernando on Mar 27^th, 2018, 2:03am:

The Texas Spirits were not listening in. The note was from me to you, writer to writer.
 
When Fernando says something in opposition to what was established, I don't know if it is because you the writer had forgotten what was established or if Fernando is being Fernando.
 
As for the rest of the post, you seem to be contradicting yourself. Therefore I don't know how to respond.
 
By the way, I'm leaving to go out of town a few days starting Thursday morning and I don't know how much time I will have Wednesday.
 
Jeanette Isabelle