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Re: After Chaos
Reply #2510 - Mar 9th, 2018, 10:35pm
 
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Drinks:
Water
Wine
Beer
Fruit Juice
Sweet Water (Soda)

(Anything else anyone wants to add?)

Shizuku and Elsa drink tea.

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Reply #2511 - Mar 10th, 2018, 8:31am
 
Quote from Fernando on Mar 9th, 2018, 10:35pm:
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Shizuku is looking for the Baroness, but Chihiro was looking for Shizuku. Now that Chihiro ia Shizuku, ie: Shizuku being found, Shizuku can now look for the Baroness. Problem is The Baroness was an adult in Chirhiro's original time. Either the Baroness is an immortal or she is dead in this moment in time. Even if she was an immortal, it would be doubtful for her to have survived this long.

I had this worked out since before I posted the opening story. I included clues in the opening story and the RPG that Chihiro is Shizuku Tsukishima hoping that someone would put the clues together. I inserted information such as Shizuku has been missing since 1995; I would not use Clark Kent looking for Superman as a red herring.
 
You are probably right about the Baroness. Given that no one has seen her the whole time, though she is a Spirit, she is probably dead. While this is unfortunate for the Baron, people do die.
 
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Wait until he throws down the gauntlet on the Habaine. Their “secret” is no longer a “secret” with him and he is going to throw them a challenge that will have their head spinning.
I don't follow. You lost me here.


We will have to wait and see...

Mainly what I want to know is, what secret are you referring?
 
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Reply #2512 - Mar 10th, 2018, 5:08pm
 
I searched all posts that contain "Chihiro" and "Shizuku." Though Chihiro did mention Shizuku as if she was a separate individual (to hide her true identity) and one line out of the entire RPG that could be interpreted that way, I found nothing I wrote saying Chihiro is searching for Shizuku.  
 
I did, however, found a post where you said Chihiro is searching for Shizuku.
 
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Finding the lost author is Chihiro’s story, not Hondo’s or Fernando’s. Hondo and Fernando can help out Chihiro, but they are not there yet. So to Fernando and Hondo, finding what happened to Shizuku Tsukishima is very low on the list of priorities compared to the group’s safety, food/water, fuel, travel and comfort.

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Reply #2513 - Mar 10th, 2018, 5:38pm
 
Something Moro said the day before is bugging Jeanette. Preventing a nuclear war (an event that was supposed to happen) is what threw the world into chaos.
 
To Jeanette, this makes no sense. "Penny, I need you to stay with Mrs. Pointer."
 
"Okay," Penny responds.
 
Even if Moro's statement is true, meaning a nuclear war was supposed to happen, how on earth would putting a stop to it throw the world into chaos? Preventing a nuclear war would be a good thing. At least that is what Jeanette is thinking.
 
Jeanette finds Fernando. "Do you have a minute? There is something I want to ask."
 
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Reply #2514 - Mar 11th, 2018, 1:01am
 
Quote from Jeanette on Mar 10th, 2018, 5:38pm:
Something Moro said the day before is bugging Jeanette. Preventing a nuclear war (an event that was supposed to happen) is what threw the world into chaos.

To Jeanette, this makes no sense. "Penny, I need you to stay with Mrs. Pointer."

"Okay," Penny responds.

Even if Moro's statement is true, meaning a nuclear war was supposed to happen, how on earth would putting a stop to it throw the world into chaos? Preventing a nuclear war would be a good thing. At least that is what Jeanette is thinking.

Jeanette finds Fernando. "Do you have a minute? There is something I want to ask."

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Fernando stops in his tracks to get those in the large bus/camper that were recently added to the group.
 
“You have something to ask, though I am getting everybody to get ready for dinner, which they will be serving very soon. What did I say about delays? No, better yet. Ask. What is so important that it cannot wait until tomorrow when we get to the next town?”
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Reply #2515 - Mar 11th, 2018, 8:54am
 
Jeanette was about to turn away and wait until tomorrow. However, Fernando did tell her to ask. "I'm glad the Texas Spirits have admitted responsibility for the Happening. However, I don't understand their explanation for how . . . correction, why it happened. According to Moro, all they did was prevent a nuclear war. Granted, she said that the war they interfered with was a war that was supposed to happen. How can interfering with an event that was supposed to happen (in this case a nuclear war) throw the world into chaos?"
 
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Reply #2516 - Mar 11th, 2018, 11:19pm
 
Quote from Jeanette on Mar 11th, 2018, 8:54am:
Jeanette was about to turn away and wait until tomorrow. However, Fernando did tell her to ask. "I'm glad the Texas Spirits have admitted responsibility for the Happening. However, I don't understand their explanation for how . . . correction, why it happened. According to Moro, all they did was prevent a nuclear war. Granted, she said that the war they interfered with was a war that was supposed to happen. How can interfering with an event that was supposed to happen (in this case a nuclear war) throw the world into chaos?"

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“I frankly do not care what the Spirits say they did or not did. I take what they say as disinformation and misinformation, nothing more. This is stated for you to be distracted and lead you to think what they want you to think and what you can think on your own.” Fernando begins.
 
He continues.” You are not a Time Traveler like I am, so I want to think in these terms: An event that would have had killed millions, if not billions of people cannot be undone or changed. But if altered those millions or billions of people would have to die somehow. It does not matter how it will be done as it will be done – period. That is your answer. Now get your people together and let’s get them fed before we roll out. The hospitality here has been great and I wish we could stay but we got people to rescue including Gabrielle. Hopefully we will find other places like this but from what I hear the next town is not going to be easy nor as friendly nor hospitable. So you better be prepared.”
 
Fernando walks over to the double-decker bus and knocks loudly on its door. Somebody answers, it was the house-mother.
 
“Excuse the intrusion. General Jastrey stated to me that diner should be ready in a minute or two. Gather your group and report to her by the large tent, she or her staff will tell you where to get your food and where to eat. If there are any extras, you can gather some things for a late night meals while on the road.” Fernando explains to her.
 
“Thank you.” the House Mother replies.
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Reply #2517 - Mar 12th, 2018, 4:44pm
 
Jeanette locates Moro. "The lives you saved by preventing a nuclear war, did they die at a later date?"
 
"Everybody dies. Even those who are near immortal will die eventually." Moro answers.
 
"Well, yeah." Jeanette was not asking for the obvious.
 
Moro continues. "We may never know the names or the number of people saved by preventing the nuclear weapons from detonating or reaching their intended targets. Maybe this will answer your question. People who were destined to die did have children. Those children had children. In those areas, the population increased, not decreased."
 
Jeanette got an answer; the part regarding stopping an event that was to happen still bugs her. To get the answer she's after, Jeanette uses Hitler as an example. "Have the Texas Spirits made any attempts to kill Adolf Hitler?"
 
Moro responds with a short answer. "No."
 
"Why not? Think of all the lives you would have saved! You saved lives by pulling people out of gas chambers and fooled the Nazis into thinking they succeeded and you did it to get the Genesis 12:3 blessing. How much more of the Genesis 12:3 blessing would you have received if had simply killed Hitler?"
 
"World War II is an event that was supposed to happen."
 
Jeanette fires back. "Isn't that what you said about the nuclear war?"
 
"It was hindsight that told us that World War II was to happen. However, prophecies told us there would be a nuclear war. The fact people began sending nukes to each other confirms this. Those nuclear weapons did not detonate."
 
"If it was prophecy, wouldn't the Middle East go nuclear?"
 
"Did you ever read the book of Jonah in the Bible? As prophesied, Yehovah was to destroy Nineveh in forty days. You know how that turned out."
 
"The people of Nineveh repented. Because they repented, God did not destroy them. You, on the other hand, interfered with what you claim is a prophetic nuclear war."
 
"That prophecy will happen. If not now, then later."
 
Jeanette lets that sink in for a second. "Is Israel apart of that prophecy? I mean, according to that prophecy will Israel get nuked?"
 
"Yes."
 
"Then that prophecy will never come to pass. If you are not able to disable that nuke, you will go five minutes back in time to transport the nuke in space. If that does not work, you will put up a shield around Israel, anything to get the Genesis 12:3 blessing. If you are correct when you said the world is in the mess that it is in because you prevented a nuclear war in the Middle East, then this world will remain this way for thousands of years. Why do you want that blessing so much anyhow? If that blessing works then you must have so much wealth that you don't know what to do with it."
 
"We don't want it for ourselves. We want it for Charlton."
 
Jeanette takes a deep breath. "I recall you mentioning that before. Let me rephrase the question. Why do you want that tiny nation blessed?"
 
"We want Yehovah to protect Charlton."
 
"That's it?" Jeanette exclaims. "That is the reason you have saved the lives of millions of Jews? That's the reason you defended Israel as if your lives depend on it? Think, Moro! You don't need the Genesis 12:3 blessing for that! All you have to do is decloak one of your ships. No one will come within a hundred miles of you. Charlton would be as secure as the gold in Fort Knox."
 
"You don't get it, Jeanette. We want Yehovah to protect Charlton."
 
"You're right. I don't get it. You are more than capable of protecting Charton yourselves. You want Charlton protected from a time traveler? Is that what this is about?"
 
Moro shakes her head. "No."
 
"Well, what then?" Jeanette thinks she figured it out. "You want the protection that only God can provide. I'm sorry that I have to break it to you; when Revelation 21:1 comes to pass, Charlton is going bye bye. Genesis 12:3 can't save Charlton from Revelation 21:1. If you want a new Charlton, you need to talk to a scholar who has studied the Bible longer than I've been alive. I don't have an answer for you." Jeanette pauses. "If you skip down to Verse 24, it says there will be nations. That applies to people, not places. I don't think we can apply that to Charlton."
 
"People need places to live."
 
Jeanette is skeptical. "I don't know. Why do you want to stay in Charlton when you can live in Jerusalem?"
 
"Charlton is the only home I and many others have ever known. You probably think of me as just a Spirit, created in a lab. We are not extras in a science fiction franchise." Moro retrieves her mobile device, accesses an image and hands it to Jeanette. "I was one in this picture."
 
An adult, male wolf Spirit is holding Moro. Facing the street, he is standing by the front door of a townhouse.
 
Jeanette accepts the mobile device.
 
"Every year on my birthday, Dad and I had our picture taken together in front of our house. It turned into a family tradition."
 
"This is in Charlton?" Jeanette asks. "This looks like the townhouses in New England." Jeanette then comments on the visual clues. "You're birthday is in the fall."
 
"For the look of Charlton, we borrowed ideas from Europe. And yes, I was born in the fall, my favorite season of the year which is when we have all of the fun holidays: Sukkot, Thanksgiving, Hanukkah and New Years. The last one is a winter holiday."
 
Hikaru, Penny and the others approach.
 
"Moro is showing me pictures of when she was a little girl." Jeanette looks around. "We need a place to sit."
 
The small group has a seat at a table where they will soon have dinner. Moro shows them pictures of her and her dad on her first birthday, second birthday, third and so forth, one from each year in front of their home.
 
"What year were you born?" Jeanette asks. "The glasses your dad is wearing suggests the mid-twentieth century."
 
"1940." Moro answers.
 
"You will be a hundred and twenty-six this year. You're just a young pup."
 
The small group watches Moro grow up, one year at a time. These pictures are also a snapshot of a time in which fashion had radically changed.
 
"Even into my twenties, Dad and I did this every year." After showing those pictures, Moro pulls up something else. "This is a home movie of Hanukkah 1956."
 
In it are Moro's grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins and siblings.
 
"This isn't in your tiny townhouse that we saw, is it?" Jeanette asks.
 
"No."
 
The black and white home movie of a family of wolf Spirits reminds Jeanette of the birthday party in the Symbicort commercials.
 
Jeanette gets back to the original conversation. "I understand wanting to protect the only place you've called home; when God fulfills Revelation 21, He will have something better."
 
"I don't know." Moro does not sound too excited.
 
"If you want to live in a place that's old, that's on you. I don't know if God will make that accommodation even if you do decide to cash in your Genesis 12:3 blessings."
 
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Reply #2518 - Mar 14th, 2018, 9:50pm
 
Jeanette continues and rather bluntly. "I hope you genuinely are worshiping the Creator and not His creation. Your people seem to want to hold onto what is familiar to the point where at the very least you are rejecting what God has to offer."
 
"Jeanette, have you done any studying on how the new Earth will be? No rain, no seasons, no sun, no ocean, no mountains and, except for the River of Life, no rivers. It will be better than hell, however." Moro pauses. "Regardless of how we feel, we will not curse Israel. Failing to defend Israel is a sin of omission, the same as cursing them."
 
"Is that because 'with great power comes great responsibility?' You come across as the ultimate mercenaries, rescuing Jews and defending Israel just to get a blessing. However, when the time comes to reap your reward, you don't want it." Jeanette then references My Dream of Heaven, Chapter 15. "You remind me of the man who gets to Heaven and insists on living in an apartment." Jeanette has failed to grasp the significance of Moro's claim of preventing a prophetic war. "You prevented nuclear weapons from detonating. How many targets were there?"
 
"Two." Moro answers. "Damascus and Israel."
 
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Reply #2519 - Mar 15th, 2018, 8:45pm
 
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Walking back, Fernando can hear Jeanette’s conversation with Moro.
 
He thinks to himself, ‘They are playing her like a fish on a line. The name of the targets makes no sense, when in nuclear war it would be several cities targeted and not one – Damascus. As for Israel, what in Israel? Cities, military bases, disputed settlements? This would make it more than just “two targets.” It’s too vague and general. “Disinformation for Fun & Profit.” As it used to be said in the halls of the “Agency.”’
 
But dinner is starting, and he already warned Jeanette about being late and he will leave her and her group behind. There is a lot to do before they roll out, and whether she is ready or not, things will be done and they will roll out on time. When operating with the military, one has to be on the dot on the clock as per the schedule or be left behind.
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