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Re: After Chaos
Reply #2450 - Jun 16th, 2017, 9:39pm
 
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"It'll be great to see Gidget again. I have that same photo. Anyhow, you found Zoey this morning and Fernando knows it. Why doesn't he come to you since you have the technology? Can you teleport Valentine here?"

"We are able to teleport Valentine here. Sunday both Fernando and Hondo told me that they do not want our protection."

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"Without drama, there is no story." That is why Fernando and Hondo said for Moro to leave it alone. Let them deal with the story that unfolds.
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Reply #2451 - Jun 17th, 2017, 10:56am
 
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 Once again you and your #$@!ing spirits are taking a big steaming crap on the story!!! Do you have no concept of letting other have their stories? This is an RPG. This is NOT about Jeanette or Moro or the Texas spirits it's about the writers being involved. You as a mod should take a backseat to others stories but you being the #$@!ing control freak you are must glass house everything and have have an army of powerful beings so you can stomp on everyone else's stories!! Don't you see that without drama, without making the characters work to achieve a goal there is no muther-#$@!ing story!?!?!?!? Damn it all I regret ever letting you mod this. ... I only did because supposedly you had a bunch of folks from the cafe coming here for this and Jefe and I just didn't have the time or even desire to deal with the piddly shit involved in running the story and you were the one that brought it here. So against my better judgement I allowed it. And from what I hear no one from the cafe will join in because of your controlling bullshit!!  Your bullshit had better back up and end here and now or this is over. I'm not interested in arguing about it or hearing any of you shit about it. Back the spirits power down, get rid of the controlling glass house shit, and stop the snippy comments if you want this RPG to continue. Pushing me at this time would not be smart.
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Well the cowboy, like the red man, you had to leave your land
You can't raise your stock and plant your crop in the gumbo and the sand
Greed disguised as progress has put us to the test
They won't be glad until we're gone from our home out in the west
It's sad to see those good old days replaced with greed and doubt
Soon we'll leave the country, the campfire has gone out
Bid 'em all adieu, you can't turn the world about
The cowboy left the country, the campfire has gone out
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Re: After Chaos
Reply #2452 - Jun 17th, 2017, 11:47am
 
Quote from Fernando on Jun 16th, 2017, 9:39pm:
Quote from Jeanette on Jun 16th, 2017, 6:44pm:
"It'll be great to see Gidget again. I have that same photo. Anyhow, you found Zoey this morning and Fernando knows it. Why doesn't he come to you since you have the technology? Can you teleport Valentine here?"

"We are able to teleport Valentine here. Sunday both Fernando and Hondo told me that they do not want our protection."

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"Without drama, there is no story." That is why Fernando and Hondo said for Moro to leave it alone. Let them deal with the story that unfolds.

You just quoted why Moro is leaving it alone.
 
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Reply #2453 - Jun 17th, 2017, 12:17pm
 
Quote from Hondo I. Sackett on Jun 17th, 2017, 10:56am:
Once again you and your #$@!ing spirits are taking a big steaming crap on the story!!!

Me? Are you freaking serious? You and Fernando are the ones hogging the spotlight. The Time Lord and the Sackett Clan this, the Time Lord and the Sackett Clan that while the Texas Spirits are forced to the back seat. To make sure that the Texas Spirits are painted in the worst light possible you wrote the guards going AWAL. But of course I cannot say a word about that.
 
Meanwhile keeping the Zero Point Energy power plants and the Charlton Railroad has been an uphill battle.
 
Recently when I had an idea for Teri's mom I was told I was taking characters out of character and driving the RPG to the ground. Then I was accused doing it to make the Texas Spirits look good. That's bull. If you want to know why I take the actions I take why not ask instead of making stuff up?
 
Quote from Hondo I. Sackett on Jun 17th, 2017, 10:56am:
You as a mod should take a backseat to others stories but you being the #$@!ing control freak you are must glass house everything and have have an army of powerful beings so you can stomp on everyone else's stories!!

Fernando is the most powerful person in this game, not the Texas Spirits.
 
Quote from Hondo I. Sackett on Jun 17th, 2017, 10:56am:
Don't you see that without drama, without making the characters work to achieve a goal there is no muther-#$@!ing story!?!?!?!?

If you really wanted drama, Jeanette should have been left alone that first night. She was supposed to stay and not go back to 2010 when the mission is over.
 
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Reply #2454 - Jun 17th, 2017, 3:25pm
 
As General Jastrey continues lecturing with the group, a couple of large supply trucks roll into the back unpopulated area of the parking lot the camp is situated in. Several of her specialized trained men walk into the rear of these trucks and walk out in full body armor of various designs and mission options. On the lot they test the units and makes adjustments and repairs as needed.

 
A couple more supply trucks come in, setting up an open tent for the kitchen and another set of large open tents where tables and chairs are put in. A couple of converted 55-gallon oil cans ovens, grills and stoves are set up inside first tent as the mess crew gathers together to account for supplies and an approximate head count of how many mouths to feed and double that amount for under counting and second meals for the very hungry. A couple of other work tables were set up, and a nearby spigot is accessed for its water.

 
A couple of smaller trucks roll in with the food and the crew begins to prepare the food. Though cooking should not take long, preparing for meal for some 250+ mouths will require some time to do. The main chef prepares a menu for the troop to pick and choose from:
Grilled Beast (Beef) Steak, Baked Giant Mutant Chicken, Assorted Vegetable Platter, imported brown rice with separate peas and beans in sauce, Fruit Cake Desserts, Sweet Roll Desserts, Garlic Bread, various sodas on tap, various fruit juices, milk, coffee, and tea. Various condiments are listed as well, including herbs and spices. And this was just a sampling of what they had to offer. The “army travels on its stomach” and General Jastrey’s Army was no exception to this rule.
 


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Quote from Jeanette on Jun 17th, 2017, 12:17pm:
Quote from Hondo I. Sackett on Jun 17th, 2017, 10:56am:
Once again you and your #$@!ing spirits are taking a big steaming crap on the story!!!

Me? Are you freaking serious? You and Fernando are the ones hogging the spotlight. The Time Lord and the Sackett Clan this, the Time Lord and the Sackett Clan that while the Texas Spirits are forced to the back seat. To make sure that the Texas Spirits are painted in the worst light possible you wrote the guards going AWAL. But of course I cannot say a word about that.

Meanwhile keeping the Zero Point Energy power plants and the Charlton Railroad has been an uphill battle.

Recently when I had an idea for Teri's mom I was told I was taking characters out of character and driving the RPG to the ground. Then I was accused doing it to make the Texas Spirits look good. That's bull. If you want to know why I take the actions I take why not ask instead of making stuff up?

 
Let me give you a hint, Jeanette...
 
You want to have the ZPMs power up the entire rail line. That is not technologically possible because as stated time and time again electricity can only travel up to 60 miles on a wire. For the sake of the RPG, I would extend that to 100 miles. This cannot power the rail system unless you put in a ZPM every 90 miles for some overlap of the system. This is not possible as you are going to need hundreds of ZPMs across hundreds of miles from Charlton as its center hub.
 
The one thing you never considered is to power the train with the ZPM and not the railways. This will give a train infinite distance using the ZPM. The issue with this is in 2 parts. 1) The ZPM can overload a train’s electrical system and burn out its motor. 2) The rail ways themselves need work. That is why I had the people from Town One clean and fix up their rail connection to Centraville, eventually connecting the two towns as they did. This establishes the railway between the two towns as long as no one tampers with the rails. This tampering of the rails has always been an issue in the past. Current rail train technology is steam or gas/diesel. The trains from Charlton would be Electric-ZPM. The technology is not an issue here, it always was your implementation of it. Here all you would need is a few ZPMs to power the number of trains Charlton has. Let’s say they have 20 trains on 5 different branch lines, that would only be 20 ZPMs required to power those trains for hundreds and thousands of miles, and not the hundreds of ZPMs on the tracks to power the trains. If they add another train to the line, all they need is one more ZPM for that train.
 
As for the Texas Spirits, not all people will be trust of ANY spirit because of negative bad dealings with them. It is not just the Texas Spirits, but all spirits. Only the Native Americans would truly know which spirits are benevolent and malevolent to mankind. Except for the beginning when Hondo “broke out of prison” which showed both good and bad spirits, there was no other proof of this.
 
 
Quote from Jeanette on Jun 17th, 2017, 12:17pm:
Quote from Hondo I. Sackett on Jun 17th, 2017, 10:56am:
You as a mod should take a backseat to others stories but you being the #$@!ing control freak you are must glass house everything and have have an army of powerful beings so you can stomp on everyone else's stories!!

Fernando is the most powerful person in this game, not the Texas Spirits.

 
Do not make Fernando as the almighty here. Half of what he did he could not do without Hondo’s help. Plus he thinks and he plans, looking at the resources available to him before taking action. As a Time Traveler however, he does not take his power so lightly as with every action he takes in manipulating events he knows there’s a consequence to follow. He will not take a Time Travel Correction step unless one of the major characters are killed. And then he will be very pissed off.
 
Jeanette is supposed to be the most powerful in this group because she is the leader of the group. Fernando takes a second seat to her. Unfortunately you do not use her in her leading role. You have her trying to figure out why things are happening instead of taking the initiative in asking, planning, and acting out decisions as a leader should. You literally have her sleeping away days, which for a leader is not good. In short, she has led herself into a corner where control of the group can be easily taken away from her. Fernando is not interested in leading the group, though he will work out where the group should go in order to take the best and safest route to get there.
 
The Spirits can have all the technology they want but they can do this without the group. That says that they are very inept and incompetent in what they should be able to do but can’t do. If they wanted Gabrielle so bad, all they need to do is teleport her out of her home and into Charlton before any harm comes to her. But no, they got a rag-tag group looking for her, rescuing her and taking her to Charlton for them because they cannot do this on their own. That alone says a lot about them, and that they cannot be trusted in making deals with because they are too inept, incompetent or lazy to abide by their end of the contract. But yet they are using trickery to make Jeanette do as they want? Fernando figured that out a long time ago.
 
This RPG lies in a world that is not nice. You got race manipulation (DNA manipulation to create the Wessens and other mutants), slavery, drugs/chemical addiction, violent entertainment, sexual enslavement and prostitution, and so on; and that is only the tip of the iceberg. The group could have said “The hell with helping everyone out, we are a mission from god to get to Charlton...” and it would be just a very long and boring trip with twice as many stops as Fernando needs to recharge his batteries every day. And that is if we were lucky not to be attacked at night by the highway biker gangs. But in Fernando taking actions to help others out, others are willing to help him and his group. As such, we have safe passage through the highways, protection with the convoys, lowered prices on supplies and services, extra manpower and vehicles, and many friends across a large area. Their reputations are extending outward with every radio-sent message of their journey. Here the one thing the Spirits have not figure out is there are other journals being created about the group, and not by Jeanette’s hands. Somebody trying to undo this groups trek can easily go into future and gather the records of that what was written and follow the group to either help them or send them into their demise. That is a twist I am throwing onto your lap as a writer, Jeanette. When you realize how powerful a construct this (unimplemented) story element can be, please pick up your jaw from the floor. Hint: All senior military personnel must keep a journal of the day’s activities they and their troops were part of.
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Reply #2455 - Jun 17th, 2017, 4:15pm
 
Quote from Jeanette on Jun 17th, 2017, 12:17pm:
Quote from Hondo I. Sackett on Jun 17th, 2017, 10:56am:
Once again you and your #$@!ing spirits are taking a big steaming crap on the story!!!

Me? Are you freaking serious? You and Fernando are the ones hogging the spotlight. The Time Lord and the Sackett Clan this, the Time Lord and the Sackett Clan that while the Texas Spirits are forced to the back seat. To make sure that the Texas Spirits are painted in the worst light possible you wrote the guards going AWAL. But of course I cannot say a word about that.

Meanwhile keeping the Zero Point Energy power plants and the Charlton Railroad has been an uphill battle.

Recently when I had an idea for Teri's mom I was told I was taking characters out of character and driving the RPG to the ground. Then I was accused doing it to make the Texas Spirits look good. That's bull. If you want to know why I take the actions I take why not ask instead of making stuff up?

Quote from Hondo I. Sackett on Jun 17th, 2017, 10:56am:
You as a mod should take a backseat to others stories but you being the #$@!ing control freak you are must glass house everything and have have an army of powerful beings so you can stomp on everyone else's stories!!

Fernando is the most powerful person in this game, not the Texas Spirits.

Quote from Hondo I. Sackett on Jun 17th, 2017, 10:56am:
Don't you see that without drama, without making the characters work to achieve a goal there is no muther-#$@!ing story!?!?!?!?

If you really wanted drama, Jeanette should have been left alone that first night. She was supposed to stay and not go back to 2010 when the mission is over.

Jeanette Isabelle

 
Yes, the spirits hurt the story. You have a race of beings with big tech that if they are as you say wouldn't need us at all, like Jefe pointed out, but not only that if they used their power like you wanted they would rule the world and it would be modernized cities not mad max rough living. Your spirits do not fit in this story. The way you have them if they used their power to its fullest the story would be about an underground resistance trying to get America back in the control of humans. If you had  maybe 100 spirits crash land at the time of the happening, most of their tech gone, some salvaged and the group split over differences and have no communication home then it would have worked as there wouldn't be a lot.  
 
As far as the Sackett clan goes it's 30 to 50 (tops) people, mostly Hondos family who fight together. They trust their leader and we're taught never to back down to evil. Other than a couple with nigh immortality from Fernando they have no powers. Only The Hondo and Val of this time period have access to time travel. Why they are known and powerful is the reasons stated. None other. They do what's needed and protect their own and are a force to be reckoned with as they will fight to the death for the right cause. Fernando the time lord is powerful but mindful of consequences as time manipulation has many of them, but he isn't even involved, neither is the sackett clan other than a member or two that pops in to aid. H. I. And Maria Sackett along with the time lord cannot be in the story as they cannot be too close to each other or else risk screwing up the time line. So they exist but other than stories, background, and some notoriety they have no power over the story. This Hondo can time travel but doesn't have his equipment and is very standoffish about time travel fixes and still treats him and Val as mortal as the immortality still seems almost surreal to him. Fernando has limited time travel and his wits. He has a lot to learn and go through before becoming the time lord so either is so powerful except that they work together and compliment each other.  Hondo and Fernando are working and risking life and limb to help other and now to get Val back. THAT is a story. Moro zapping her back after seeing her life energy on a computer is barely a paragraph of writing and it's a boring paragraph to boot!
 
Oh and mental anguish over staying in this time line isn't enough drama to fill the first 5 seconds of a  minute long movie trailer. Jeanette staying and not going home isn't much drama. That's one person arguing over a decision. Do you not see the story created at this town alone? Maceys big mouth embarrassed her friend which caused her to run away putting stress and worry on her parent and put not only stress on maceys dad but disappointment and maybe some feeling of responsibility then looking for run away Zoey cause Val to get kidnapped now more responsibility is felt by Fernando, macey now has extreme guilt, Zoey feels to blame, Hondo questions his decisions and fights between feeling lost and angry while trying to comfort two daughters, Val is scared for her family and her uncertain future which will all result in two or three towns being ran over and the evil within being taken down. That's just the just. A while damned moving could be made just because macey opened her mouth at the right time. Had the spirits jumped in when Zoey took off and zapped her back we would have lost pages of story,  or even feature film worth of story. Fernando and I worked together and did this. You fight us to promote characters that don't fit instead of trying to work with us to promote good story material  
 
 
Oh and Val is over 500 miles away when the meeting happens, they are in the dirigible still as it would reach its destination until morning and though Jeanette wouldn't know it Moro should as gidget is now a notorious air pirate who has gone off the deep end. She is an angry, homocidal lunatic who will not listen to reason. That is just an FYI.  
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Well the cowboy, like the red man, you had to leave your land
You can't raise your stock and plant your crop in the gumbo and the sand
Greed disguised as progress has put us to the test
They won't be glad until we're gone from our home out in the west
It's sad to see those good old days replaced with greed and doubt
Soon we'll leave the country, the campfire has gone out
Bid 'em all adieu, you can't turn the world about
The cowboy left the country, the campfire has gone out
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Reply #2456 - Jun 17th, 2017, 8:25pm
 
Quote from Fernando on Jun 17th, 2017, 3:25pm:
This cannot power the rail system unless you put in a ZPM every 90 miles for some overlap of the system.

Prior to the last change in the time line that is exactly what was going on. After the last change the ZPM was aboard special built trains.
 
Quote from Jeanette on Jul 29th, 2016, 10:15pm:
Moro shows Jeanette an image of a train. It has three sections and has the drag coefficient of a high speed train. "Though it has the drag coefficient of a high speed train, it's designed for frequent stops, not high speed. It uses a standard gauge rail and runs on a zero point module, the same power source of our ships. Because it runs on a zero point module, we needed to increase safety and security. These trains are air tight. Safety and security systems include a dome shield, artificial gravity, inertial dampeners, sensors, a crash avoidance system, lockout device and a quarantine lockdown system just to name a few. Some systems work best if the train is no more than three sections. The middle section is where we have the power source and controls for all of safety and security systems. For security reasons only authorized personnel are allowed in the middle section and that is enforced with a force field. We have a person in the middle section, trained to handle a number of emergency situations, manning the safety and security systems. This is in addition to the train operator. The middle section has seats for off duty personnel. Those seats can be easily removed to transport small amounts of cargo. The passengers are in the front and back sections. As with other all-electric trains, train operator controls are on both ends of the train. The factory to build them has to be in Charlton to ensure security. We've been using them a while on the shorter lines and they work great; they are designed to run on a double-track railway. The next time the time line is altered, we will replace the light rail trains with these."

Quote from Fernando on Jun 17th, 2017, 3:25pm:
This is not possible as you are going to need hundreds of ZPMs across hundreds of miles from Charlton as its center hub.

I made some changes to the "map" since the last time I posted it. As you can see, there are two main hubs, one minor, and none of them are in Charlton.
 
Quote from Jeanette on Oct 8th, 2016, 11:35am:
Dallas To
67 Dubuque, Iowa
67 Presidio, Texas
67 Hardy, Arkansas
75 Noyes, Minnesota
75 Galveston, Texas
75 Jacksonville, Texas
75 O'Neill, Nebraska
77 Ortonville, Minnesota
77 Corpus Christi, Texas
77 Brownsville, Texas
77 South Haven, Kansas
77 Stroud, Oklahoma
80 Tybee Island, Georgia
80 San Diego, California
80 Grand Canyon Village, Arizona
80 Savannah, Georgia
80 San Antonio, New Mexico

Fort Worth
77 Ortonville, Minnesota
77 South Haven, Kansas
77 Stroud, Oklahoma
77 Carrizo Springs, Texas
81 Pembina, North Dakota
81 Laredo, Texas
81 Corpus Christi, Texas
81 Brownsville, Texas
87 Babb, Montana
87 Havre, Montana
87 Choteau, Montana
87 Port Arthur, Texas

Greenville
69 Albert Lea, Minnesota
69 Port Arthur, Texas
69 International Falls, Minnesota
80 San Antonio, New Mexico

Quote from Fernando on Jun 17th, 2017, 3:25pm:
The issue with this is in 2 parts. 1) The ZPM can overload a train’s electrical system and burn out its motor.

Let me see if right. They are able to step down the voltage to power a 110 light bulb and yet they are somehow unable to supply the right amount of voltage to make a train go forward?
 
Quote from Fernando on Jun 17th, 2017, 3:25pm:
2) The rail ways themselves need work.

Of course they do.
 
Quote from Fernando on Jun 17th, 2017, 3:25pm:
Here all you would need is a few ZPMs to power the number of trains Charlton has. Let’s say they have 20 trains on 5 different branch lines, that would only be 20 ZPMs required to power those trains for hundreds and thousands of miles, and not the hundreds of ZPMs on the tracks to power the trains. If they add another train to the line, all they need is one more ZPM for that train.

There are a lot more than that. Just for the 80 Line, one of their longest lines before the Happening, I calculate that they will need 108 trains. For most places a train stops at a station every twenty minutes. The passenger train service acts as a nation-wide public transportation.
 
Quote from Fernando on Jun 17th, 2017, 3:25pm:
As for the Texas Spirits, not all people will be trust of ANY spirit because of negative bad dealings with them. It is not just the Texas Spirits, but all spirits. Only the Native Americans would truly know which spirits are benevolent and malevolent to mankind. Except for the beginning when Hondo “broke out of prison” which showed both good and bad spirits, there was no other proof of this.

I'm aware of this problem. There are people who do trust the Texas Spirits. Otherwise, they would not buy electricity from Zero Point Energy or ride the Charlton Railroad.
 
Quote from Fernando on Jun 17th, 2017, 3:25pm:
Do not make Fernando as the almighty here. Half of what he did he could not do without Hondo’s help. Plus he thinks and he plans, looking at the resources available to him before taking action. As a Time Traveler however, he does not take his power so lightly as with every action he takes in manipulating events he knows there’s a consequence to follow. He will not take a Time Travel Correction step unless one of the major characters are killed. And then he will be very pissed off.

I'm not suggesting Fernando takes it lightly but as a Time Lord he can prevent the Texas Spirits and their Japanese relatives from ever existing.
 
Quote from Fernando on Jun 17th, 2017, 3:25pm:
Jeanette is supposed to be the most powerful in this group because she is the leader of the group.

Jeanette may be co-leader but she is an ordinary human with no powers.
 
Quote from Fernando on Jun 17th, 2017, 3:25pm:
Fernando takes a second seat to her.

As co-leader Fernando is not second.
 
Quote from Fernando on Jun 17th, 2017, 3:25pm:
You literally have her sleeping away days, which for a leader is not good.

Jeanette was sleeping for two hours because she was sick. That's it.
 
Quote from Fernando on Jun 17th, 2017, 3:25pm:
The Spirits can have all the technology they want but they can do this without the group. That says that they are very inept and incompetent in what they should be able to do but can’t do. If they wanted Gabrielle so bad, all they need to do is teleport her out of her home and into Charlton before any harm comes to her. But no, they got a rag-tag group looking for her, rescuing her and taking her to Charlton for them because they cannot do this on their own.

The Texas Spirits don't know where Gabrielle is. They can't scan for her because she is not in the system, not yet. They know from reading the journal that this party will find her.
 
Quote from Fernando on Jun 17th, 2017, 3:25pm:
That alone says a lot about them, and that they cannot be trusted in making deals with because they are too inept, incompetent or lazy to abide by their end of the contract.

What contract are they not abiding by? They made a promise to protect everyone in the party but Fernando and Hondo threatened to leave if the Texas Spirits continued to protect them.
 
Quote from Fernando on Jun 17th, 2017, 3:25pm:
But yet they are using trickery to make Jeanette do as they want? Fernando figured that out a long time ago.

Jeanette does not want immortality as she is. She wants to be an immortal child but can't because of the laws. It is for that reason a legal solution is being worked on.
 
Quote from Fernando on Jun 17th, 2017, 3:25pm:
Here the one thing the Spirits have not figure out is there are other journals being created about the group, and not by Jeanette’s hands.

I know that anyone can keep a journal but Jeanette's is the only one from the future that the Texas Spirits has.
 
Quote from Fernando on Jun 17th, 2017, 3:25pm:
Somebody trying to undo this groups trek can easily go into future and gather the records of that what was written and follow the group to either help them or send them into their demise. That is a twist I am throwing onto your lap as a writer, Jeanette. When you realize how powerful a construct this (unimplemented) story element can be, please pick up your jaw from the floor.

I am doing something along those lines though not exact. Since Wilbur Robinson could not be arrested, allowing Jeanette to know what really happened, I'm using him again. Hint: Wilbur is not the pervert he seems to be. He's up to something else.
 
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Reply #2457 - Jun 17th, 2017, 9:32pm
 
Quote from Hondo I. Sackett on Jun 17th, 2017, 4:15pm:
You have a race of beings with big tech that if they are as you say wouldn't need us at all, like Jefe pointed out, but not only that if they used their power like you wanted they would rule the world and it would be modernized cities not mad max rough living.

As I explained in the post above that, even with the technology they have, they still need us because of the journal and because they don't know where Gabrielle is but they know that the party will find her.
 
They don't want to rule the world. They're fine with their nation that is smaller than the city of Dallas.
 
Our characters are in a Mad Max world because the world did not recover from the Happening as quickly as it normally would.
 
Quote from Hondo I. Sackett on Jun 17th, 2017, 4:15pm:
The way you have them if they used their power to its fullest the story would be about an underground resistance trying to get America back in the control of humans.

All that power counts for nothing as long as people don't trust them.
 
Quote from Hondo I. Sackett on Jun 17th, 2017, 4:15pm:
As far as the Sackett clan goes it's 30 to 50 (tops) people, mostly Hondos family who fight together. They trust their leader and we're taught never to back down to evil. Other than a couple with nigh immortality from Fernando they have no powers. Only The Hondo and Val of this time period have access to time travel. Why they are known and powerful is the reasons stated. None other. They do what's needed and protect their own and are a force to be reckoned with as they will fight to the death for the right cause. Fernando the time lord is powerful but mindful of consequences as time manipulation has many of them, but he isn't even involved, neither is the sackett clan other than a member or two that pops in to aid. H. I. And Maria Sackett along with the time lord cannot be in the story as they cannot be too close to each other or else risk screwing up the time line. So they exist but other than stories, background, and some notoriety they have no power over the story.

Constantly the Sackett Clan is brought up in dialog.
 
Quote from Hondo I. Sackett on Jun 17th, 2017, 4:15pm:
Moro zapping her back after seeing her life energy on a computer is barely a paragraph of writing and it's a boring paragraph to boot!

Moro is not zapping Valentine to the camp for the reason stated here:
 
Quote from Jeanette on Jun 16th, 2017, 6:44pm:
"We are able to teleport Valentine here. Sunday both Fernando and Hondo told me that they do not want our protection."

 
Quote from Hondo I. Sackett on Jun 17th, 2017, 4:15pm:
Oh and mental anguish over staying in this time line isn't enough drama to fill the first 5 seconds of a  minute long movie trailer. Jeanette staying and not going home isn't much drama. That's one person arguing over a decision.

It can totally change a character. Now Jeanette comes across like a person on a mission trip.
 
Quote from Hondo I. Sackett on Jun 17th, 2017, 4:15pm:
Had the spirits jumped in when Zoey took off and zapped her back we would have lost pages of story,  or even feature film worth of story.

The Texas Spirits can't, unless authorized, because Fernando and Hondo threatened to leave if the Texas Spirits continued to protect them.
 
Quote from Hondo I. Sackett on Jun 17th, 2017, 4:15pm:
Fernando and I worked together and did this. You fight us to promote characters that don't fit instead of trying to work with us to promote good story material

I may be more willing to work with you if I didn't have to constantly defend my actions.
 
Quote from Hondo I. Sackett on Jun 17th, 2017, 4:15pm:
Oh and Val is over 500 miles away when the meeting happens, they are in the dirigible still as it would reach its destination until morning and though Jeanette wouldn't know it Moro should as gidget is now a notorious air pirate who has gone off the deep end.

I know that Valentine is aboard a Zeppelin.
 
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Reply #2458 - Jun 18th, 2017, 3:24pm
 
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Val is in a “dirigible,” not a Zeppelin. A dirigible, or “blimp”, does not have an extensive internal frame inside the “gas bag” that a Zeppelin has. If anything, they have a minimal chassis frame at the bottom of the gas bag where the gondola, engines and ship’s controls are connected too. This is why when they deflate, they tend to fold in half. Zeppelins have a full light-weight frame inside the external covering which houses several gas bags, and machinery to maintain the ship, its engine and its gondolas (more than one). A Zeppelin can be over 500ft in length (The Hindenberg was 804ft long), while blimps can only be around 150 – 300 ft (ZPG-3W, a US Naval Cold War Blimp was 400ft long). Gondolas on a Zeppelin can be at the front (a pilot cockpit) and another (for passengers, equipment and cargo) at mid-ship (middle of the ship) with galley ways inside the envelope to connect the two. Blimps only have 1 gondola at mid-ship and is houses the cockpit as well as areas for the passengers, equipment and cargo. Due to their size, Zeppelins tend to be slow and hard to maneuver while blimps tend to be faster and quicker to turn.
 
Though “dirigible” is constructed similar to a “Zeppelin” with an internal air-bag frame, they tend to be a lot smaller and are more blimp-like in their appearance and function.
 
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In looking over the rail lines, despite the many lines you have, the issue is distance and how far electricity can flow through a wire. In seeing many “out of state” connections, one would need a about tens of thousands of ZPMs to power the grid. That is why I say one ZPM per train would be suffice. You stated that there are over 100 trains over 80 lines; that would make it just over 100 ZPMs, one for each train. Again, that is not a problem.
 
But before The Happening, one can connect to several lines from Nome Alaska and end up in Terra de Fuego in Argentina – South America. And the lines are Passenger, freight or both, depending on the line one is on and where on the map they are on. That is over 4,700 of track. As you stated, The Happening destroyed much of the infrastructure. For the train system, that’s the power stations, maintenance/storage areas and much of the trains. The rails are still embedded on the railway unless somebody took them for their steel, which is a problem in some areas. Proof of this is in NYC, where many streets where the old railways of the 1890s-1950s still have the rails embedded on the asphalt.
 
The problem is this, you flip-flop on how much the Spirits have rebuilt Charlton and Texas, and areas outside of Texas. You have stated that they only rebuilt Charlton and area around it. Then you stated that
the neighboring cities around Charlton were rebuilt. Then you stated that Texas was rebuilt. Then you stated that Charlton and what cities connect to them by train were rebuilt, including a few outside of Texas. It would be impossible for them to rebuild areas in that short of time unless they had a massive manpower resource. Furthermore places like Tybee Island, Georgia; San Diego, California; Grand Canyon Village, Arizona; Savannah, Georgia, and San Antonio, New Mexico would be destroyed and underwater. Places in places like Minnesota are too far away for them to have reached there by now. The same with going south to Mexico.
 
You need to decide how far they have rebuild, and how far they are currently planning to rebuild and in the end how far they want to rebuild. Remember, one must keep in mind that many places would not want Spirit help for their rebuilding efforts for one reason or another; especially their “Freedom of Religion” beliefs.
 
As I see it, the Texas Spirits rebuilt Charlton and its nearby cities, connecting the rail and highways. This reach is about 200 miles with over 100,000 people population. But they also had to rebuild and reclaim the farm lands and ranches between the cities to make sure the cities have food to feed the population and the trains and highways to transport these foods and goods. They are trying to reach outward to other cities – up to 500+ miles away, with those outside of Texas giving them some problems as some of them do not want to deal with Spirits. The Spirits are in a quandary with this as they need the food resource and are willing to deal for it. They are going to have to deal with other ways to do this. In this case the Spirits do not have to do anything here but their human representatives do the dealing. Thing is you do not want to lie about the spirits hand in these deals. You have too or end up with a far away city that fails because of lack of or high expense of food. 500 miles would put them in southern Kansas, half way between where we are and Charlton is.
 
The USA is not rebuilding because of the Texas Spirits. It is rebuilding because he people want to unify what once was. The Texas Spirits are just one factor in that rebuilding process. If they want to be Xenophobic in their religious rights, no one is going to deal with them. So they are Jews, big deal. There are Christians, Jews, Islamic Muslims, Sikhs, Buddhists, Wicca, Voo Doo, Santareria, Satanists, so one and so forth. I bet there are Eastern European Gypsies in the mix. It does not matter. So the Texas Spirits only wants one land for themselves to call their own. That’s fine, but that does not give them the right to force one religion onto others in the name of Religious Freedoms. This is not done in Israel, which is the true promised land. This forcing of one religion is one of many reasons why people will not deal with the Texas Spirits. And the Texas Spirits better get off their “Our God is mightier than Yours” mentality because we all pray to the same god in different ways. If they continue to be like this, then they are going to continue to lose people from their flock.
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Reply #2459 - Jun 18th, 2017, 4:04pm
 
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With the repairs and adjustments done to the armored suits, they are put back into their mobilization trucks, and more focus onto the food preparations can be given. The wessen girls and a few others from the group stand by the meeting tent and watch what was being done behind it. One set of the dual 55gallon grill-stoves was filled with wood chips and charcoal and then set to burn with the top down. After a long while of maybe a half an hour, it is reopened and 3 large slabs of prepared and seasoned giant mutant chicken breasts are put in to one side and the top closed again. The other side was piled up with slabs of beef. Another 55gallon grill stove is it with a similar combination of wood and charcoal, and a couple of cooks stand by it as the vegetables are put into pots and pans to cook on the flames. A younger military officer comes in with a hand truck with a large pot, a large bag of rice and what looks like a gas burner.

 
It is set up, lighting the gas stove, putting the pot on it, filling it half way with water and pouring the various ingredients into it including the whole bag of rice. (No meat was put into it.) The young officer stand over the cooking pot stirring it around every few minutes as another cook adds other things to the pot like coloring and spices. Another cook dumps in several cobs of corn which were cut into quarters lengthwise.

 
With a couple more cooking stations being assembled and manned, the food preparation was underway.
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