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Re: After Chaos
Reply #2410 - Jun 7th, 2017, 11:02pm
 
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Jason will only see the Spirits as vicious as everyone else he has encountered.
 


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“That is how business is everywhere. You are either as good as your word or you are as good as dead if you are not quick enough to act.” Jason tells her, “From what I hear, Fernando and his friend are the quickest guns around when no one wants to hear their words. That is what I need.”
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Reply #2411 - Jun 8th, 2017, 7:09am
 
Moro believes that Jason is missing a point. "Without a lead to follow, how is being the quickest guns around supposed to help? So far we have nothing to go on."
 
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Reply #2412 - Jun 8th, 2017, 3:18pm
 
"I am the lead. I say where we are to go, who to see and who to eliminate in order to get my wife back!" Jason lets out at Moro.
 
In hearing this commotion, Fernando and Hondo quickly approach Jason and Moro with Fernando signaling to Moro to leave the area, which she does. He then turns to Jason.
 
‘I am going to make this clear to you Jason. You do not lead this group, I do. You lead your group in that truck and that is the extent of your influence here. You do not go about making demands from anybody from my group. You have not put in to support the group. Hondo and I went out of our way to help and rescue you – there, you people have been rescued. Everything else you do is on your own. Searching for missing and lost family members from years ago, it is not going to happen. Consider them dead, and respect the dead and leave it that.” Fernando tells him.
 
“What do you know, you’re Francisco. I want to see Fernando.” Jason tells him.
 
“You’re speaking to him.” Fernando tells him.
 
Jason stands there fuming, “What?!! You’ve been lying to me all this time?!!”
 
“Lying? No. Holding back the truth from you? Since you consider that as not lying, then I did not lied to you.” Fernando tells him.
 
“You said your name was Francisco!” Jason tells him.
 
“Francisco is my middle name, therefore I did not lied to you.” Fernando tells him, “And it is I who decided that we are not going to help you. You are either part of this group or you’re not. Since you are becoming a pest, I’ll have Hondo undo the repairs he did and you can be stuck in this town for as long as they will welcome you, which with that attitude will be a very short time.”
 
Jason scowls at him.
 
Fernando continues, “You and your group are welcomed for the meeting and for the dinner we are going to have before we leave. After that where you go is on you. You dare follow us, you follow us to your demise, I will not take you to safety, I will not assist you if you need it. We helped you and not once have you said to us ‘Thank you.’ That tells me the kind of people you are. So leave us alone or face the consequences of not adhering to my warning. Do I make myself clear?”
 
“Very clear.” Jason says.
 
“Then have a good day and bother us no more. The meeting starts in less than an hour, be there with your drivers. Dinner will be 3 hours after that. Use the time to prepare to leave – with or without us. I expect you to be at the meeting and share what intel you have.” Fernando tells him as General Jastrey and her men approaches them ready to take action if needed.
 
Looking at the added reinforcement, Jason decides to walk away for now.
 
“The Fernando I knew from the past would have vaporized him on the spot with a bolt of lightning as he did with any threat to the group.” General Jastrey tells him.
 
“That might be true, but until I get to that point, I have a lot to learn and a lot of patience with assholes like him... for now.” Fernando tells the General.
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Reply #2413 - Jun 8th, 2017, 9:21pm
 
“I need to do this treaty.” Fernando says to himself. “Let’s go get that laptop so I can start typing away.”
 
Hondo just grunts, securing his gun back in the holster after releasing its leather strap in case Jason needed a couple of rounds into him. He follows Fernando back to the Electric camper where Fernando sits down into the driver’s seat. Fernando reaches down and pulls his notebook laptop from between the seats and puts it on his lap. He begins to write up the letter and terms of agreement the first Lab Town must adhere to in order to exist in peace and prosperity with the town (Centraville) or risk violent confrontations with them. He comes up with 10+ pages of terms and conditions both groups are to adhere too for both to respect and enjoy the fruits of their labor. A small treaty, but if accepted, it would only add to the peace and prosperity of the area to everyone around. He turns on Spell and Grammar checker to check for mistakes and possible issues that could cause problems within the terms of treaty agreement.
 
Fernando takes his case and summons his daughter Francesca to take the laptop and get the document printed in several copies. He tells her to put the copies on the passenger seat and the laptop in its carrier bag by the driver’s seat while he is away at the meeting.
 
“Hondo, I’ll meet you in the tent. Get those who will be driving for you. I need to get Joanna, Ruth, Karl, Marvin and Maribelle and we can all meet meet in the tent and the meeting to begin.” Fernando tells Hondo.
 
“I’ll see you then, Jefe.” Hondo tells him.
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Reply #2414 - Jun 9th, 2017, 11:22am
 
"Is Mr. Jason a human?" Jade asks Moro.
 
"Yes." Moro answers.
 
"But you are a Spirit." Jade continues.
 
"That's correct."
 
"Does Mr. Jason know that you are a Spirit?"
 
"I think so."
 
"Why is Mr. Jason making demands on a Spirit?"
 
"His emotions are running high." Moro explains.
 
"You are apart of this group, right?" Jade continues.
 
"Correct."
 
"And Mr. Fernando is the leader of this group?" Jade further inquires.
 
Moro explains what's going on. "Jeanette Miller and Fernando are co leaders of this group."
 
"Is Mr. Fernando human or a Spirit?"
 
"He's human."
 
"And Ms. Miller, is she human too?"
 
"Yes, Miss Miller is human."
 
"I don't get it." Jade declares. "Why are humans leading a Spirit?"
 
"Fernando has experiences and expertise that we do not have."
 
"But you are Spirits."
 
"Regardless of what you might think of us, we are just people like Jeanette Miller, Fernando and Hondo. Almost all Spirits are able to transform in one way or another and our group is able to fix machines by touching them. Outside of that, there's no difference between us and humans."
 
Jade's concept of Spirits is being shaken. "But you are able to appear anywhere in the world just like that." Jade snaps her fingers.
 
"That is done with teleportation technology."
 
Jade changes the subject. "Do you really think my wings are pretty though my feathers are black?"
 
"Yes, black wings are just pretty as grey wings."
 
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Reply #2415 - Jun 9th, 2017, 3:14pm
 
Quote from Jeanette on Jun 9th, 2017, 1:58pm:
Jason considers something and looks for Moro. "You Spirits are able to search for anyone if they are in your system?"

Jason was told by Fernando to leave it alone. He did not leave it alone and he will get bit by this action.
 
 
Quote from Jeanette on Jun 9th, 2017, 1:58pm:
Moro starts with a search on Tina. "Let's start with Tina." Moro types on her keyboard and hits Enter. In less than two minutes, the search is complete. No match found. Tina is in camp and yet the Texas Spirits are unable to find her. Moro quietly looks at Jason and Wilma and just shakes her head.

Wilma lets out a sigh as she holds Jason's hands, hoping and praying that Tiny Tina would be found.

"I'll search for Ned." Moro types at her keyboard and hits Enter. No match found. Again Moro just shakes her head.

Wilma looks away as her hopes are being dashed.

It's a given that adult males would be killed and Ned was 42 when they were 'purged." Being young, Tina was turned into the wessen Teri, that is a given.
 
Though anyone can be turned into a wessen, those in the slave trade would only want young and strong individuals for field work and females for indoor house keeping work. It is rare to have an older male wessen doing a butler's job or acting as a 'Man-Servant' in a house. Maribelle's family had at least 2. "Sam" was one of them, and he was killed in the Purge.
http://www.hondosackett.com/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1428938728/1604#1604
 
 
Quote from Jeanette on Jun 9th, 2017, 1:58pm:
Moro lets out a big sigh after two failed attempts. "Now Sheri."

Wilma just covers her eyes.

Moro types on her keyboard once more. If there is any chance, this is it. She hits Enter. A few seconds later she gets something. On her screen are three blimps and they are moving at a walking pace. One of the three blimps is labeled "Sheri."

Moro claps her hands with a loud, single clap to express her excitement. "Sheri is alive and she's close by!" Moro then switches to short-range sensors.

Sheri is outdoors and walking with two your ladies.

Moro picks up the photograph and compares it to what she is seeing on her screen. "That's her!" Moro closes her laptop. "We need to get outside."

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Because Sheri is outdoors, Moro is able to get a clear image of her with the short-range sensors.

Also, because Sheri is walking, they need to go outside or a place with a lot of empty space. Otherwise Sheri will walk into a wall or something else as she is being transported.

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If Tina was turned into a Wessen, chances are Sheri was turned into a Wessen too or killed in trying to save Tina.A mother would rather sacrifice herself in exchange than have her child undergo physical/mental torment. It is highly doubtful that she would be alive as a human after 6 years. If she was alive, she would be under much torment and distress trying to find Tina. This is the issue I'm having, but let me see where you take it.  
 
Sheri would be around 42, A lot older than Jason by at least 10 or more years.
 
The parking area they are in is at least 1/2 mile wide along the town's entrance and 1/4 long. Moro has plenty of room to teleport Sheri there, though there are a few areas with water spigots she could trip on. The closest one to the camp is about 100 yards away. They all look like an old water fountain stand or bird bath with the spigot below the bowl.
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Reply #2416 - Jun 9th, 2017, 6:50pm
 
Quote from Jeanette on Jun 9th, 2017, 5:15pm:
Quote from Fernando on Jun 9th, 2017, 3:14pm:
If Tina was turned into a Wessen, chances are Sheri was turned into a Wessen too or killed in trying to save Tina.A mother would rather sacrifice herself in exchange than have her child undergo physical/mental torment. It is highly doubtful that she would be alive as a human after 6 years. If she was alive, she would be under much torment and distress trying to find Tina. This is the issue I'm having, but let me see where you take it.

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Sheri could have been have been shot, or some other attempt on her life could have been made, and would have been believed to have died by those who attacked her and her family. That is exactly what happened. She was perceived dead by those who attacked her and her family.

The $64,000 question is, what happened when, by all accounts, she is dead? A follow up question would be was she unconscious for a while and, if she was, how long?

Anyhow, you're right. Sheri would be looking for Tina but be unable to find her.

 
The underground elements who deal with this are not so sloppy to let a body lie around where it can be found. I try not to get graphic with the purges or murders, but one preferred method, of killing a group is to put them into an old cargo container with their hands and feet bound and set the container on fire. And the description of what the Slavers did to Ruth and Joanna’s family farm, with people hung by their necks and burned while they swung on the end of a rope, well, that was being nice. The only time they would leave a supposed dead body is if they had to leave the area immediately, either by order or somebody coming with help to fight them off. The Grandfather was found dying by Hondo but he was in no condition to be taken to a hospital. He probably was unconscious when he was shot up.
 
When the boys’ parents were killed, only the van was checked and not the trailer. That was sloppiness on their part. If they would have searched the trailer, they would have found the boys alive and would have taken them. It is like in the Anime “Nuku Nuku” – All cultural Cat Girl” OVA, first 4:39 minutes of Episode 1, The Scientist and his son were able to get away because somebody did a poor job of checking their handiwork:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AoETsnmpT4  (From 0:00 to 4:39) And thus Nuku Nuku was born on Christmas Day.
 
For Sheri to remain alive would create an ugly scene of how and why she got there. A dead body would get cold and stiff in less than an hour, a living body remains warm. If they had to pick her up and tossed her away, somebody would have realized that she was still alive, and dealt with accordingly. For somebody to find her alive and nurse her back to health, though a possibility, it would be liekly impossible.
 
Reason: For Tina to be turned into a wessen and Sheri to be alive, they both would have been sent to a Lab Town to be converted as wessens. If Sheri had to be killed in Lab Town, she would have been dissected and put into storage jars until such parts are needed. Lab Town does not waste bodies.
 
 
Quote from Jeanette on Jun 9th, 2017, 5:15pm:

Moro is on her mobile device. "This area is clear. Teleport Sheri to my location."

Sheri, now forty-one, is wearing a simple white dress with orange trim and a pair of sandals. She and two young Haibane women are walking down a dirt road.

The youngest Haibane female is carrying a pan, like a cake pan. "You're worrying to much."

Sheri is looking forward as she speaks. "But I came into her room without knocking or asking." Without warning she is suddenly in camp. "Maybe she was offended." Sheri places her arms forward as if to block something. She positions herself as if to brace for impact. She relaxes her arms and is straight again. "What is this? What's happening?"

Wilma recognizes Sheri. "Sheri? It is you!"

"Jason? Wilma? Is that really you?" Sheri asks. "Have any of you seen my Tina?"

Jason really doesn't look at Sheri. Instead, he only sees the black feathers and lets Moro have it. "Are you Spirits that sick?" Jason slaps Moro across the face. "You think this is funny? That is not Sheri. That is a black-feathered curse!" Jason pulls out his gun but it falls apart in his hand. The pieces fall to the ground.

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The members within the group are, in short and lack for a better word, mutant haters. They will tolerate Wessens but not mutants. This is because of Jason’s (and some of the others) dealings with mutants that got them into trouble in the past. Sheri being a Haibane would have been dealt with a bullet to the head a long time ago. Sheri never had wings as she is a human and not a mutant, so her having wings now is an impossibility. At this point, Wilma would have drawn her gun out too, and shot this person where she stood. No questions asked.
 
Whatever ploy you are developing as a writer, this is a rather sick one. You are making Haibanes come out of everywhere when their number would be actually quite low and rare, even you stated that that Haibanes are rare to begin with. And people are born as mutants, not created as one. Wessens are not mutants, but individuals who had their DNA altered. In that there is a difference. As discussed in Marvel Comics back in the 1970s and 1980s, “There are mutants and there are mutates. Mutants are born, mutates are created.” (XMen – God Love, Man Kills and XMen – Days of Future Past I & 2). Thus Wessens are not Mutants, they are mutates. And except for the Mooks in the highways, mutants are not allowed to breed. Wessens outnumber Mutants 2 or 3 to 1. Wessens are more accepted as individuals than a mutant, and they would be doing jobs in various positions. Mutants do not have that chance unless it is within their family business and even then it is doubtful because no family wants the public to know that there is a mutant in the family. That’s like saying, “We got weak and inferior genes, please mate with us.”
 
Let’s see where this goes but Sheri should have been left alone dead. She was never a mutant and that is where is should have been left at.
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Reply #2417 - Jun 9th, 2017, 8:36pm
 
Notes and a refresh on mutants and mutations:
 
I can make a change to Wilma's reaction but I already established that while the wings normally show up in childhood, they do show up in adulthood as well.
 
I don't know what you find sick. In hindsight there was no reason for me to introduce Bergljót but where is it stated that this is a rare mutation? "The Setting and Rules" establishes the opposite:
 
Mutants, Thinking and Not
 
Part 3, Disfigurements  
 
Angel Wings, feathered wings on one's back is a common mutation
 
 
Though some, like Elsa, are born with a mutation, most mutants are born human. A human can be a mutant at anytime in their life. This is already established in "The Setting and Rules."
 
Cults and Beliefs
 
Order of Fire operates in extreme secrecy. The Fire is an effective mutagen cocktail that they use to convert people into mutants. "Ascended" will inherit the Earth. Only the volunteers are chosen, though. The Ascension ritual involves thorough medical checks and organism cleansing, without which the patient would die. The Order does not like non-Fire mutants, because they are "contaminated".
 
Mutants, Thinking and Not
 
Yes, people are afraid of mutation, but it happens regardless, very often with those who spend a lot of time traveling or scavenging old cities.
 
 
Wesens were never a part of this universe. If you and Hondo want to introduce Wesens to this little corner of the globe, I'm fine with it. The Wesen plot is good. I like it. However has anyone come to me about Wesens outnumbering mutants? I was fine with Wesens until now when you told me that they outnumber mutants. That many people being turned into Wesen is very messed up and sick.
 
Where does it say that mutants are not allowed to bread?
 
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Reply #2418 - Jun 10th, 2017, 2:23am
 
Quote from Jeanette on Jun 9th, 2017, 8:36pm:
Notes and a refresh on mutants and mutations:

I can make a change to Wilma's reaction but I already established that while the wings normally show up in childhood, they do show up in adulthood as well.

I don't know what you find sick. In hindsight there was no reason for me to introduce Bergljót but where is it stated that this is a rare mutation?

 
Two issues here with that. I find it sick because Sheri and the others were never to be found. This was a situation for Jason to deal with, to accept somebody being dead though there was a slight chance that they may be alive somewhere. Now that whole situation is wrecked. Jason is never going to learn his lesson and if he dares flip out, others are going to get hurt because you as a writer would not have left well enough alone. In short, the guy has issues that Fernando spotted long ago and that is why he would not help him. Now you as a writer has compounded those issues. Innocent people within the group may die because of this, because you as a writer had pushed him over the edge.
 
 
Quote from Jeanette on Jun 9th, 2017, 8:36pm:

"The Setting and Rules" establishes the opposite:

Mutants, Thinking and Not

Part 3, Disfigurements

Angel Wings, feathered wings on one's back is a common mutation


Though some, like Elsa, are born with a mutation, most mutants are born human. A human can be a mutant at anytime in their life. This is already established in "The Setting and Rules."

Cults and Beliefs

Order of Fire operates in extreme secrecy. The Fire is an effective mutagen cocktail that they use to convert people into mutants. "Ascended" will inherit the Earth. Only the volunteers are chosen, though. The Ascension ritual involves thorough medical checks and organism cleansing, without which the patient would die. The Order does not like non-Fire mutants, because they are "contaminated".

Mutants, Thinking and Not

Yes, people are afraid of mutation, but it happens regardless, very often with those who spend a lot of time traveling or scavenging old cities.


Wesens were never a part of this universe. If you and Hondo want to introduce Wesens to this little corner of the globe, I'm fine with it. The Wesen plot is good. I like it. However has anyone come to me about Wesens outnumbering mutants? I was fine with Wesens until now when you told me that they outnumber mutants. That many people being turned into Wesen is very messed up and sick.

Where does it say that mutants are not allowed to bread?

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You need to understand how mutations work. Plan and simple it cannot happen “any time in a person’s life.” This is because of nature’s enforcing her rules on us, and if we do not use certain abilities, we lose those abilities. It is called Neural Pruning (aka. Synaptic Pruning), which the brain begins to shut down and take down and recycle parts of its self for other functions. This happens in a person with their later adolescent to young adult years. So if you have a person who becomes totally deaf from an early age because of illness or infection, you cannot put in a cochlear implant to restore their hearing in their late 20s - mid 30’s because the hearing and sound processing part of their brain would have been pruned out from Neural Pruning in their late teens and early 20s. This happens automatically and of no control of the person, though they are aware of the loss of the ability when it happens (partially deaf people becoming totally deaf, partially blind becoming totally blind, etc.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synaptic_pruning#Pruning_in_the_maturing_brain
 
In that – Sheri was already in her mid 30s when she disappeared. Because of Neural Pruning her body cannot change because she is a mutant. That would have happened 15 to 20 years before while in her young adult – teens years before Neural Pruning hit.
 
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I read and reread the mutant section again and again. In the rules, they can exist. As per email dated on Sun, January 25, 2015 7:34 pm about the rules:
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Mutants, Thinking and Not

Yes, people are afraid of mutation, but it happens regardless, very often with those who spend a lot of time traveling or scavenging old cities. Mutant powers come in three levels. Basic gives you no or little control over your power, very little effect and range. Advanced is the next level, your power actually helps you sometimes. At Expert level it becomes an integral part of your life. Be warned, non player characters can have Above-Expert.

 
Being turned into a mutant because of exposure of something chemical or radiation is a mutate. The creation of Wessen is a predetermined alteration, addition and subtraction of a persons’ DNA to acquire the wanted results. But the unwanted results happen and one such failed example are the Mooks. A Wessen is a deliberate forced mutation of a person. So according to the rules, they can exist. “Those who spend a lot of time traveling or scavenging old cities” can be stated as one who has been imprisoned in a Lab Town and experimented on. Is it sick? Of course it is. Do those in Lab Town care about those being turned into Wessens? They do not give a Rat’s ass. These are different spirits we are dealing with – who think that man is nothing but a resource.
 
What is sicker – is a spirit who goes around killing humans because they see us as a food resource.  According to the Hopi Indians of New Mexico and Texas, these are what they call “Children of the underground.” These “Children” happen to be Lizards and Black Bird ETs. They are considered as evil by the Hopi, and they go against the “Children of the Stars.” I will dare say they exist in the RPG World. It is just we never made it that far and we might never meet them if we are lucky.
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Reply #2419 - Jun 10th, 2017, 9:41am
 
Quote from Fernando on Jun 10th, 2017, 2:23am:
Two issues here with that. I find it sick because Sheri and the others were never to be found. This was a situation for Jason to deal with, to accept somebody being dead though there was a slight chance that they may be alive somewhere. Now that whole situation is wrecked. Jason is never going to learn his lesson and if he dares flip out, others are going to get hurt because you as a writer would not have left well enough alone. In short, the guy has issues that Fernando spotted long ago and that is why he would not help him. Now you as a writer has compounded those issues. Innocent people within the group may die because of this, because you as a writer had pushed him over the edge.

Jason has been bugging this party to find lost family members. He needs to be careful of what he asks for. Moreover Jason has got conformation that Ned and Tina are dead. Jason may be an ass but he is also a victim.
 
I saw two additional opportunities:
 
One, Sheri being dead or believed to be dead seems very convenient. While it seems like that is exactly what happened, I purposely went that direction because of how it seems, that's not what happened. There is something going on that the Texas Spirits have not been able figure out.
 
Two, Teri will be human again. Though she will never remember her mom, the mom will remember her. This will be bitter sweet.
 
Quote from Fernando on Jun 10th, 2017, 2:23am:
You need to understand how mutations work. Plan and simple it cannot happen “any time in a person’s life.”

As you know, I did not write "The Setting and Rules." Nevertheless that is what I, and everyone else playing this RPG, follow. I listed two examples from "The Setting and Rules" that shows humans can change at anytime in their life.
 
Quote from Fernando on Jun 10th, 2017, 2:23am:
Being turned into a mutant because of exposure of something chemical or radiation is a mutate.

"Mutant" is the term used when "The Setting and Rules" was written but it does not prohibit you from using the term "mutate."
 
Quote from Fernando on Jun 10th, 2017, 2:23am:
The creation of Wessen is a predetermined alteration, addition and subtraction of a persons’ DNA to acquire the wanted results. But the unwanted results happen and one such failed example are the Mooks. A Wessen is a deliberate forced mutation of a person. So according to the rules, they can exist. “Those who spend a lot of time traveling or scavenging old cities” can be stated as one who has been imprisoned in a Lab Town and experimented on.

As I said in the last post, I'm fine with it. The problem is the statement that Wesens outnumber mutants.
 
Quote from Fernando on Jun 10th, 2017, 2:23am:
Is it sick? Of course it is. Do those in Lab Town care about those being turned into Wessens? They do not give a Rat’s ass. These are different spirits we are dealing with – who think that man is nothing but a resource.

So far the definition of a Spirit has not been violated but I'm worried that the line may be crossed.
 
The Spirits are beings that take on animal forms, mainly crows. Some Spirits are benevolent and some are not. Benevolent or not, all Spirits hate wastefulness and destruction and want to protect Mother Earth. The Spirits (who need people) watch, protect and guide the people they select. The Spirits do not have one governing body. Example: There are Japanese Spirits and there are Native American Spirits.  
 
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