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After Chaos (Read 185665 times)
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Re: After Chaos
Reply #2390 - Jun 6th, 2017, 11:04pm
 
Quote from Jeanette on Jun 6th, 2017, 6:50pm:
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Like I said before, we seem to be having trouble finding clues. That is until now with Hondo finding the ones you inserted.

If Jason does not want any of them back, why is he bugging Fernando?

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Quote from Hondo I. Sackett on Jun 6th, 2017, 8:17pm:
Note: I get fernandos clues and he gets mine usually. Yours usually deal with obscure anime that I have never heard of let alone seen, so yeah, I wouldn't get most of your clues

 
Of Jason:
 
Jason wants what was, not what is or what will be. He thinks that in recovering those who were lost, like his wife, that things would go back to how they were. This is not possible. Too much time has passed and the missing person would have definitely had changed because their living situation and environment has changed. His wife would no longer be his wife but somebody else as she would have changed herself in order to live in the situation she is in.
 
Jason is not the leader of the group as he makes himself out to be. But because this is a patriarchical world, he is the one that represents the group. But women like General Jastrey, Lieutenant Benson, and Mrs. Clean that patriarch structure is wearing down, giving women power when they had little or none. Thus the women of the group lead it and not he. He thinks that if he can regain his wife Wendy, who once ruled the group with her cousin Wilma that he can regain the position of power and influence he had under Wendy. Thus he wants Wendy as she was, not what she is or has become. If Wendy is out there as a wessen who does not remember who she was as Wendy, her return to Jason means nothing for he has gained nothing from it.
 
Why is he bothering Fernando? Because he sees that Fernando is helping others and asking little in return – just do chores that help out the others in the camp, whatever is required of them to do. He thinks that he can swindle the group from doing nothing himself and get the maximum return from it. He thinks that he can get Fernando to find or rescue his wife; the latter stating that he might know where she is if she is a captive. But where she disappeared is far out of their way to the South East some many miles. It would take days to get there and they them away from Gabrielle who is in the South West.
 
But again, Jason thinks Fernando is Francisco and thinks that Francisco can lead him to Fernando. In his mind, he feels that he is being mislead and cheated out of a chance to deal with the person he thinks he can deal with to get a “free rescue.” Remember – Jason and his group are “rescuers” of sorts, but “rescuers who demand a price for their service.” If he thinks he can get a free rescue out of the deal, he will try to get it.
 
 
Of others:
 
This is the list of the missing, as stated here: http://www.hondosackett.com/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1428938728/2372#2372
 
Look at the clues:
Most males are killed. That would leave the younger males and all of the females as possible survivors.
Of those possible survivors, look at the age and when they disappeared. How old would they be now?
Of those surviving as an older person of their former self, how many were turned into wessens or not?
 
That third question is loaded because we do not know that answer. It could be some, or all or none. The second question is also loaded as it makes one thinks that they all survived when they could not have. There is a possibility that some could have survived. There is also that possibility that none survived. The same applies to being kept as humans vs. being turned into wessens.
 
The thing is this, out of everyone the group has encountered, who fits the description of the missing that Jason is over looking.
 
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If, and it is a big IF, some of his relatives are alive, then they are near by but he can not see them because they are not what they used to be and he is looking for what they used to be not what they could be. So he is looking for something that is not there. It's like looking for caterpillars after they had turned into butterflies. They are still there but in a different form.

 
While discussing other things in the FB Chat, I asked Hondo if he knew who are those that is nearby that Jason can not see. He managed to get it after a while of thinking. You need to go back and reread the descriptions of those the group have encountered and compare them to the list.
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Re: After Chaos
Reply #2391 - Jun 6th, 2017, 11:33pm
 
Quote from Jeanette on Jun 6th, 2017, 9:35pm:
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Some of the clues I have inserted, yes but those are not major clues.

Other clues I have inserted require no knowledge of anime. There are a few times I thought, when I inserted major clues, someone would easily figure it out. So far no one has told me that they figured out what happened to the writer Shizuku Tsukishima.

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Easy Answer – Fernando, Hondo, et al. are too concerned with what is happening within the group and the events around them to care about a writer whose story they had not read, who has disappeared over 50+ years ago. Finding the lost author is Chihiro’s story, not Hondo’s or Fernando’s. Hondo and Fernando can help out Chihiro, but they are not there yet. So to Fernando and Hondo, finding what happened to Shizuku Tsukishima is very low on the list of priorities compared to the group’s safety, food/water, fuel, travel and comfort.
 
Taking the situation Val is in, sure, Fernando, Moro and/or the Spirits can use time travel and go back to the past and get her back. But that is an easy out and does not add to the story. Air Pirates, which are in the rules, adds to the story. How? Hondo is doing what he can with what he wrote up with a deranged leader of such an air pirate ship. And it was well done.
 
Each one of us has our own story we are adding to the RPG. That is not a contest of who can write a better story, this is how our stories add up to support each other to achieve the end of bringing Gabrielle, along with many, to Charlton. It is over 1800 miles of travel, one that will take days if not weeks to complete. In short it is a Road Trip with many good and bad things happening along the way. There are places we have not reached. There are experiences we have not explored. Remember, with long distance trips, Fernando needs to literally recharge his batteries – his Electric Camper’s batteries. And they have not ended up in a situation where they are to camp out in the wild. These are possibilities that can happen, and how we deal with these situations is what makes up the story the RPG lives in.
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Reply #2392 - Jun 7th, 2017, 8:04am
 
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I'm not saying Fernando and Hondo are involved just as they were not involved in the opening story that was written as a murder mystery. Yet you were able to figure out who did it.
 
Clues are there for those reading that subplot.
 
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Each one of us has our own story we are adding to the RPG. That is not a contest of who can write a better story, this is how our stories add up to support each other to achieve the end of bringing Gabrielle, along with many, to Charlton.

Making it a contest was not my intention.
 
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Reply #2393 - Jun 7th, 2017, 11:43am
 
Quote from Fernando on Jun 6th, 2017, 11:04pm:
He thinks that he can get Fernando to find or rescue his wife; the latter stating that he might know where she is if she is a captive. But where she disappeared is far out of their way to the South East some many miles. It would take days to get there and they them away from Gabrielle who is in the South West.

If Moro finds a missing person, that person can be transported to camp. It does not take days on the road.
 
It has not been established where Gabrielle is. However, I have been the stage for when she is found by establishing how even other mutants see the black-feathered Haibane.
 
 
Oh, now I get it. Nina and Leela are La La and Li Li. Ellis is Marin. Liza, Beth, Milly and Michael are now Wesen but I don't know who they are now.
 
Is there a young person who was left for dead but was not confirmed dead? The two characters I am considering are Tiny Tina and Wendy.
 
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Re: After Chaos
Reply #2394 - Jun 7th, 2017, 5:56pm
 
Quote from Jeanette on Jun 7th, 2017, 11:43am:
Quote from Fernando on Jun 6th, 2017, 11:04pm:
He thinks that he can get Fernando to find or rescue his wife; the latter stating that he might know where she is if she is a captive. But where she disappeared is far out of their way to the South East some many miles. It would take days to get there and they them away from Gabrielle who is in the South West.

If Moro finds a missing person, that person can be transported to camp. It does not take days on the road.

It has not been established where Gabrielle is. However, I have been the stage for when she is found by establishing how even other mutants see the black-feathered Haibane.


Oh, now I get it. Nina and Leela are La La and Li Li. Ellis is Marin. Liza, Beth, Milly and Michael are now Wesen but I don't know who they are now.

Is there a young person who was left for dead but was not confirmed dead? The two characters I am considering are Tiny Tina and Wendy.

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You got the Twins right. Eliis was not considered but he would be an excellent candidate for Marvin. The issue is Michael; if he fought back during their capture, he would have been killed. That would leave Ellis to be the one who is Marvin. If Michael is alive, he might be Karl or Marvin but that it doubtful; most boyfriends would try to defend their girlfriends and Michael would have defended Milly and gotten killed in the process.
 
Only Jason would know where Wendy is if she is still alive but disclosing that information might get him into trouble since he wants power. He knows where she was, but if she tried to escape, she would have been killed in that escape or turned into a wessen after her recapture, and he would not know that. Sheri is unknown. But Tina is nearby.
 
So far you got much of the math right.
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Reply #2395 - Jun 7th, 2017, 6:51pm
 
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Is Tina Teri? Who else is a Wesen character now?
 
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Reply #2396 - Jun 7th, 2017, 6:53pm
 
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Is Tina Teri? Who else is a Wesen character now?

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Reply #2397 - Jun 7th, 2017, 7:03pm
 
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Is there anyone else who has been spoken for?
 
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Reply #2398 - Jun 7th, 2017, 7:03pm
 
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...Who else is a Wesen character now?

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For every Wessen out there, there about 20 to 50 people, but some places have higher concentrations. Like the Jenkin’s Mega Farm, there were about 30 wessens for a family of 8 humans.
 
Only 2 unaccounted are Sheri and Wendy. I have not written wessens that they could be.
 
But this posses the problem, if Jason would ever find out who these individuals are as nearby wessens, he would not want them back. He is within that part of the crowd that think wessens are an abomination and not a person who was forced to undergo such a procedure to make them so. If Wendy was ever found, and found as a wessen, he probably would put a bullet into her head to “end her misery.”
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Reply #2399 - Jun 7th, 2017, 7:08pm
 
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Would Jason provide information on Wendy, such as medical discharge papers, to Moro in hopes of finding her?
 
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