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Re: After Chaos
Reply #2230 - May 6th, 2017, 10:47am
 
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This is the problem I see for us writers: When we introduce a few characters at a time, those characters can grow and develop into someone we can relate to. Take Maribelle for example. She is introduced as a spoiled rich girl who suddenly lost everything. While that foundation has not changed, we see her grow and develop as a character. Danielle, being the exception, is the only character I introduced who has not developed and has not contributed much to the story. Jason, Wilma and company, on the other side of the spectrum, were all introduced at once. We rarely see them outside the tractor trailer because they were not developed. As is, we can't relate to them.
 
I wrote about the people living in the abandoned train station to show where Jade is coming from. I did not intend on them joining us and ending up like Jason, Wilma and company: characters who do nothing to the story.
 
Packing heirlooms, as trivial as it is in this setting, does help the characters and therefore the story because the items that a character holds dear tell us more about the character. And the fact Moro is doing this says something about her: While Moro does not truly understand humans, this act shows that there is at least this human attribute that she does understand.
 
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Reply #2231 - May 6th, 2017, 12:01pm
 
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Moro continues to speak to General Jastrey. "I hate to uncover a messy situation and split. Therefore, if I'm to take these people in, there are issues that need to be dealt with first."

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“This is what gathering intel entails. You need to get the questions of Who, What, When, How, and Why answered. This way there are less casualties on both sides. I do not care for excuses and I hate mistakes even more. It is because of excuses and mistakes I have lost a lot of good men and women over the years, and if it were not for the swift and proper actions of this man (pointing to Fernando), we would still be at war with the Slavers. But because he took such actions, can we now enjoy peace and prosperity.” General Jastrey tells Moro.
 
“Pray tell, what did he do?” Maribelle asks.
 
“I do not know where were you hiding all this time, Ms Jenkins, but Fernando here fixed a few of the old rocket launchers we had and just when they were going to wipe us out on the field of battle with their airships, he shot down the airships and rescued us from certain death. He then tried to negotiate peace with Biggus Dickus, Biggus ordered a second wave of attack which he stopped by launching another rocket at their command center, eliminating Biggus and the Slavers surrendered. They signed a peace treaty to never take others as slaves – humans, mutants or wessens ever again, and with their airship technology, extend the convoy’s trade routes from hundreds of miles to nearly a thousand miles. That, among the other things you seen him do is what this is what he did.” General Jastrey tells her.
 
Maribelle stands there with her jaw hung open, not believing what she was hearing.
 
“I was there to see him do it. He got up and stood up to an airship as they were aiming their guns at us. I thought we were all going to die then and there, but there was a loud ‘Whoosh’ from the tube on Fernando’s shoulder and then the airship blew up in a ball of fire like a poorly cleaned grain silo.” Karl tells her, “Then he did the same with the other one behind it.”
 
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Grain Silo dust explosions is one of the biggest agricultural hazards if it is not properly cared for. This video only shows what two bags of flour (about 5 pounds) can do. Imagine what a 50ft grain silo can look like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIkk0D2tUU8

 
“Enough of the Hero Worship. I can’t stand it.” Fernando says for all to hear, throwing in, “Moro, I know you got other things to do. But if you want to save these people, you must act fast and act now. What quarrels there are need to end then and there because if they decide to stay when the construction crews come into the train station to reclaim it and rebuild it, they will lose their home in the very least.”
 
“They would be arrested if they do not vacate the premises upon orders. Then I will let the judge deal with the matter and have them serve their time doing hard labor cleaning up the highways within our borders.” General Jastrey tells the group.
 
“You also have another problem, if this girl was taken from her home, then she must have parents that are worried that she is missing. You cannot take her until you find her parents and talk with them about taking her and even them to Charlton for their safety. I can only do but so much as things are unraveling here.” Fernando tells Moro without letting on that Val is missing and he and Hondo are planning to find her one way or another but until then there will be a lot of detective work to do to get the clues to find her. He turns to General Jastrey, “General, any more information from Tiny?”
 
“It’s hard to say. All he is saying is that he wants to go with you to Fight Town. Why, I don’t know. It’s like when the animals go crazy before the ground shakes or a funnel cloud comes, like a sixth sense they got. The some of the wessens have that too.” General Jastrey explains.
 
“I see.” Fernando replies. He asks, “Karl? How do you feel about it, if you remember?”
 
“I remember. And I said it would be very bad to go there and to go to Lab Town.” Karl answers.
 
“We’ll discuss it at the meeting. But we are going and we are going with back up.” Fernando tells him and the others. He turns back to Moro, “Let’s get things done, we’re burning daylight. And Moro, see what you can do for these people, even take a few of Jastrey’s men with you to prove your point. And get this message across to them – ‘If I want Beef, I would order it with my Fried Rice.’”
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Reply #2232 - May 6th, 2017, 1:20pm
 
Quote from Jeanette on May 6th, 2017, 10:47am:
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This is the problem I see for us writers: When we introduce a few characters at a time, those characters can grow and develop into someone we can relate to. Take Maribelle for example. She is introduced as a spoiled rich girl who suddenly lost everything. While that foundation has not changed, we see her grow and develop as a character. Danielle, being the exception, is the only character I introduced who has not developed and has not contributed much to the story. Jason, Wilma and company, on the other side of the spectrum, were all introduced at once. We rarely see them outside the tractor trailer because they were not developed. As is, we can't relate to them.

I wrote about the people living in the abandoned train station to show where Jade is coming from. I did not intend on them joining us and ending up like Jason, Wilma and company: characters who do nothing to the story.

Packing heirlooms, as trivial as it is in this setting, does help the characters and therefore the story because the items that a character holds dear tell us more about the character. And the fact Moro is doing this says something about her: While Moro does not truly understand humans, this act shows that there is at least this human attribute that she does understand.

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I doubt it takes the story out of context but in the end, when the group arrives to Charlton, I see a caravan of vehicles of people with them. An “Exodus to Charlton” as a promised land to save them from what is out there.  
 
In this there will be some characters in the dark.
 
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Jason’s group consists of 3 sub groups:
The Leaders: Jason, “wife” Wilma, Roz, Karol and (may have been mentioned or not) Korin. They make the decisions for the group as to what they do, going into town or not, mining or not, rescuing others or not. They have their own beds they share in the sleeper compartment of the tractor. The women are related to each other, Jason is not. And all of them are looking for lost relatives that were captured or killed by the slavers years ago, more than 5 years ago. Because of the time past, Fernando thinks this is a waste of time to look for them and they should cut their losses. Even if they find them as wessens and were converted back to humans, due to the wessen process final step, their memories have been erased, making them just a shell of who they are and not remember anything of their past. This is done so a person turned into a wessen does not try to escape and go back to their pat.
 
The problem with the leaders of this group is their hidden agenda of charging for the rescue and in a way, having a set up of semi-slavery or indentured servitude within the trailer. Though “earning one’s keep” within the group is one thing, they take it a step further.
 
The Girl-Boys Group (aka Pretty Boys, which you helped name and define; excellent work by the way):  Robin, Dakota, Madison, Francis and Jordan – teenboys who were introduced into the homosexual/gay lifestyle and forced to become “Fem-Boys” (the males who are the female in the in the homosexual relationship). They, like the others, were rescued from various whore houses and situations.
 
http://www.hondosackett.com/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1428938728/1750#1750
 
The Girls: similar to the Girl-Boys, 12 who have been rescued from the whore houses they were in. Only one that is has been defined was “Lisa,” she was the one having sex with “Bruno” the dog at Lacey’s Whore House. She and three others within the group were the ones Lacey was hunting for when they were found and recently released by Lacey and her men by a rouse Fernando created, thus rescuing them even more. This creates the situation that, at least 4 of the girls and the dogs, cannot stay in the area or be captured again. Lacey think they are going to do hard time in Jastrey’s prison and will try to make a deal for them later on. So for them, they have to leave the area or be forced to return to Lacey’s Whore House. The other girls are in similar situations but do not belong to Lacey but she could take them and return them to their place of ill-repute for a reward.
 
But in being rescued, they and the Girl-Boys have to do some sort of work for Jason and his women.
 
The one thing not pointed it out is their double tractor trailer. It is too big and too clean for them to have bought it outright from anyone. Though it happened over ten years ago, it was stolen from a Lab Town that no longer exists. With a lot of work done to it, including a new paint job back then, they converted it from a rolling lab to a rolling 2 story house and foundry/factory for material processing. Since it was stolen from a Lab Town, no one pays no mind to it, but it has had several raids attempted to take it. If they did not defend it harshly, they would have lost it years ago. So within that tractor trailer is a massive weapons cache. Thus for protection, they roll with the caravans and convoys and are pretty much now left alone.
 
There is a hidden problem here if you did not catch it. Lisa and Macey were friends at Lacey’s whore house, and Lisa was going to introduce Macey to having sex with Bruno if she had not left with Fernando when she did. Since Lisa was at the whore house at the time Macey left, her (and her friends’) rescue had to have happened very recently. Question is: Could this have been the start of the Purge or was the Purge started for another reason, or both? We would have to go far back to Ruth/Joanna’s family and Tony/Zoey/Karl’s rescue to find out as there was something one of the slavers said before being confronted by Hondo.
 
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The Wessens are pretty simple to explain: slaves of work, entertainment and sex. The ones with the group want to leave the situation they are in for a better place where they can be accepted. Even with, the possible cure to turn them into humans, they will only retain the programming they were given during the Wessen Conversion process as their memories were erased. So turning Teri back into a human, she will always be Teri in her mind because that is all she knows. The same applies to the others.
 
Don’t know if you picked it up, but it explains things like the some of the Mooks that inhabit the highways – Hondo explained in one of his posts of those individuals who for some reason failed in the wessen process to become a creature somewhere in between with a feral animal’s brain. They are nothing more than wild monkeys on the road who have become foul and vicious in their deeds to survive in the wild. All they understand is based on behavior. For example: mess with one of Mister Jamerson's Giant Mutant Chickens, and either they will be killed by the giant mutant chickens or by Mister Jamerson's shot gun. In either case, they stay away from Mister Jamerson and his Giant Mutant Chickens.
 
The current Wessen’s load on the group are: Karl, Tonya, Zoey, Teri, La La, Li Li, and Marvin. Tiny might be added to the group thogh I’m trying to hold off on that for now. Teri, La La and Li Li are Sex Kittens and only know a bit more than just bending over and giving up some tail on command because their masters taught them more. Teri though a willing sex-kitten for Maribelle, became a living doll for Maribelle. La La and Li Li were taught the basics of keeping house and preparing a meal (not necessarily cooking, but cutting up vegetables and things). Teri learned through Maribelle how to take care of her things (washing and cleaning, etc.) But that is all they know. Karl, Marvin, Tiny and even Tonya were brought up for sport (Fight town) and as the Masters’ protector. Thus they learned how to drive vehicles, use firearms, and the art of making deals and making sure they are kept (like getting paid by a gambling loser).  Zoey was undergoing her training.
 
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This is how the story is evolving. Characters will be added, some temporary, others permanently. Some will be active, others semi-active, and some left in the dark. This is why Fernando is saying what he says about Moro bringing people into the group. It is her choice, but in that choice, there will be consequences to deal with. But as rescuers, it is a job they have to do. Whether Moro wants to do this job or not is on her, but for Jeanette this is an obligation she has to go through no matter what. Jeanette is the rescuer, not Moro. Moro has a choice to pick and choose, Jeanette does not have a choice and has to do it for all or none at all.
 
I find no problems with this, as this is just juggling of characters while the story evolves. Let’s say if the group ends up bringing in a caravan of over 25 vehicles with over 150 people in it to Charlton of various trades and reasons, some of those characters will have an active role in the story, many others will not. This is not a problem. No problem at all.
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Reply #2233 - May 6th, 2017, 2:07pm
 
"Are you really going to arrest the children?" Jade asks.
 
"Jade." Moro steps in. "We need to know what we're dealing with." She then addresses Fernando. "Jade doesn't even remember what town she is from though she gave me a description of it."
 
Moro accurately assumes what Fernando means by "I can only do but so much as things are unraveling here." Moro, as with anyone who has read the journal, cannot say anything about Valentine unless someone else, like Fernando or Hondo, says something first.
 
"Fernando," Moro continues, "I don't understand the cryptic message you want me to give to the people at the train station."
 
Chihiro returns with the plastic bag and gives it to Moro. "Here you go."
 
"Thanks." Moro takes the plastic bag and puts Jade's coat, boots and her other things in it. She gets back to Jastrey. "General, where are the men going with us to the train station?"
 
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Reply #2234 - May 6th, 2017, 2:33pm
 
Quote from Jeanette on May 6th, 2017, 10:47am:
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Packing heirlooms, as trivial as it is in this setting, does help the characters and therefore the story because the items that a character holds dear tell us more about the character. And the fact Moro is doing this says something about her: While Moro does not truly understand humans, this act shows that there is at least this human attribute that she does understand.

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This is a point you are missing with Maribelle. She stated that the slavers may have violated her clothes and other intimate things she had owned and thus she does not want them anymore. Teri might but that is because she may not understand what having her things violated means. As a girl in high school, how would you like it if some boy broke into your gym locker and was caught sniffing your panties you had in there? That is a violation you would not stand for. This is part of the mindset Maribelle is in.
 
Quote from Jeanette on May 6th, 2017, 10:47am:
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I wrote about the people living in the abandoned train station to show where Jade is coming from. I did not intend on them joining us and ending up like Jason, Wilma and company: characters who do nothing to the story.
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Just remembered: Ester and Susanna are young teen girls related to Ruth and Joanna, who are in the camper taking care of the boys: Howard and Earl who 2 and 4 years old. They are seen in a semi regular basis but appear to be in the dark as unused characters though they are not. They are the influence which Ruth and Joanna act on though they not seen. Because of the boy’s young age, they have a Dub Box trailer to use as their play pen. This is an invisible interaction that only seen through Ruth and Joanna. Later in the story, Ester and Susanna will be more noticed in the (near) future but right now the story is too focused on what is going to happen here and at fight town.
 
Jason and his crew have their story of trying to find their lost relatives. They are doing something to the story as who and what they are. You as a writer have not used them as possible characters that effect your OCs’ events and actions, and only Hondo and I are privy to what may happen to them in the (near) future. But they are not invisible, for example, while the tractor was being repaired in town, the boys in the least were doing things like cleaning up outside and getting the water tanks filled up (dragging a long hose to the parking lot spigot and connecting it). The girls were inside doing their chores, which includes cleaning and cooking, and a couple of them going into town with Karol and Roz to get supplies they did not get before. Lisa, her three friends and the dogs were keeping an eye on the area they were in as “watch dogs.” Though these events were not written down, it does not mean it did not happened. It just means that it was not written down and one must assume that basic house duties were done by the group.
 
I’m not taking points away from Moro. In the least she is trying which is better than nothing. I am more worried about Jeanette because she is becoming a character in the dark because she is hardly seen. For her to do the role she may play in Fight Town, she is going to need some fancy dresses that Maribelle may not want. Can a deal be made? That depends on Jeanette, but as you have her she’s in her dub box nursing a tummy ache. What is happening to her we don’t know except for this hint you gave. Food she ate might not be agreeing with her or she could be having appendicitis, or she could be having cramps from her period, or she cannot handle the stress of reality and its coming to haunt her with digestive issues. Who knows. But until Jeanette comes out and is more active in this as the leader she is supposed to be, somebody has to lead. The only promise Fernando made was to help and support Jeanette in this story. But he has become leader in her absence and as such, is trying to keep everyone safe from what may happen to them out there, so he’s taking the safest route he can find. Thus if there are people to rescue along the way, he will rescue them. If they want to join in the group in the “Exodus to Charlton,” that is on them but it is something Fernando will not deny them from having. If he can he would help them obtain the means to do so.
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Reply #2235 - May 6th, 2017, 2:54pm
 
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This is a point you are missing with Maribelle. She stated that the slavers may have violated her clothes and other intimate things she had owned and thus she does not want them anymore. Teri might but that is because she may not understand what having her things violated means. As a girl in high school, how would you like it if some boy broke into your gym locker and was caught sniffing your panties you had in there? That is a violation you would not stand for. This is part of the mindset Maribelle is in.

I did not know that is what she meant. Teri, I'm assuming, may want to bring the "doll clothes." Other than the wine, is there anything Maribelle wants to keep?
 
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Reply #2236 - May 6th, 2017, 3:12pm
 
Fernando asks General Jastrey, “Is there a list of missing people the town is aware of?”
 
“We have a book of missing town people going back over 30 years. Most are from Purging actions the slavers took. After 5 years if they are not found, they declared as dead. As far as I know there have been no recent additions for the past month even though there has been a recent purge.” General Jastrey explains to Fernando. She then turns to Moro and pulls out her radio, “Benson, I need two SUVs to take an adult and a child to the abandoned train station. Fill the second jeep with some men for their protection. They are going to talk to some squatters in the abandoned train station building, but arrest no one. They are just gathering intel as to why they are there and notify them that they will need to leave soon as the train station is going to get rebuilt in a couple of weeks.”
 
A female voice on the radio answers, “On our way, sir!”
 
“And Benson... The child is a young black wing female Haibane. I find no problems with that, and neither will you or the men. Do I make myself clear?” General Jastrey says in a very authorative tone.
 
For a second there is a silence on the radio, but as a pair of SUVs pull into the parking area the same female voice answers on the radio, “Yes Sir!”
 
The SUV pulls up to Karl’s SUV where General Jastrey’s vehicle was parked by. Several men step out of the second SUV with machine guns in arms while a lone female figure step out of the first SUV, “We are here, sir. Who are we taking and where?”
 
“Lieutenant Benson, this it Moro and I presume the girl is Jade. Jade will be leaving town later today but she mentioned of several others using the abandoned train station as their home. This is a fact finding mission, not a law enforcement mission. The people there will be told that they will need to leave the train station under their own accord before the construction crews go in and begin rebuilding the station. If they stay when reconstruction begins, they will be arrested. This gives them a few days to gather their things and leave peacefully. If they need services like finding a new place to live, the town council can help out with such services. But they also have the option to leave town with this group tonight and I will supply them the means to leave but they have to leave tonight when the group leaves. There are no options in this, they either must pick and choose: leave tonight with the group, leave in a few days before reconstruction begins and find lodgings elsewhere or be arrested if they chose to stay when reconstruction begins. Do I make myself clear?” General Jastrey begins.
 
“Yes Sir!” Lieutenant Benson says.
 
“OK, Moro. They will take you to the train station and it will be up to you to see what can be done. In the least they will be warned. If they choose to leave today, have Lieutenant Benson notify me of the decision so I can get the bus repaired for them.” General Jastrey says to Moro.
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Reply #2237 - May 6th, 2017, 3:45pm
 
Quote from Jeanette on May 6th, 2017, 2:54pm:
Quote from Fernando on May 6th, 2017, 2:33pm:
This is a point you are missing with Maribelle. She stated that the slavers may have violated her clothes and other intimate things she had owned and thus she does not want them anymore. Teri might but that is because she may not understand what having her things violated means. As a girl in high school, how would you like it if some boy broke into your gym locker and was caught sniffing your panties you had in there? That is a violation you would not stand for. This is part of the mindset Maribelle is in.

I did not know that is what she meant. Teri, I'm assuming, may want to bring the "doll clothes." Other than the wine, is there anything Maribelle wants to keep?

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Hondo can yell at me for this, but you as a writer should know this much of my plan.
 
In rescuing Val, Maribelle’s father and perhaps a couple more relatives (brothers/sisters) will be found. Will they be rescued as well? That depends if they survive the rescue. The raid into Lab Town will be a bloody one. Combatants and innocents will be injured and perhaps killed. This is where whether or not Maribelle’s family will be successfully rescued or not. There’s a possibility of more of Ruth and Joanna’s family members will be rescued too, and well as others. This is in the works between Hondo and I for what happens after Fight Town.
 
This is a hint that I will give: The Root of Slavery is like a Dandelion – it grows deep. Explaining the hint, Wessens are/were created as a slave race. For the treaty to really take effect, slavery in all its forms must be eliminated. This means that the means of creating wessens must be eliminated and where it can – reversed. Unfortunately, it cannot be reversed for all. And later on as we travel, other forms of wessens will be discovered and they will not be reversible because the technique used to create them is different than what this Lab Town used. A cure can be found for them but like this place, that will take time to find.

 
Teri’s doll clothing are basically Maribelle’s old dresses she no longer wears and have been adjusted to fit Teri. Not mentioned, Teri is a bit smaller than Maribelle by a small bit as she is younger than Maribelle. Just like she is smaller than La La and Li Li because she is younger than they are. La La and Li Li are at least in their mid-20s, Maribelle is in her early 20s and Teri is in her late teens. But as for the "Doll Clothes," Teri did not take them because she took her basic clothing: tops, skirts shorts, underwear, etc. She has no value for her "Doll Clothes" because she does not understand that concept, like she has no concept of having her clothing violated. If she caught somebody sniffing her undies, she would probably laugh thinking it was funny or mad because they got her undies without her permission but she would not think they were violated because she does not understand that concept. This is true for the other sex-kittens (La La, Li Li and others).
 
Maribelle’s things may or may not be violated but as far as she knows within her mind, her home was purged and thus her things were violated. Whether or not her clothing can be recycled and reused or sold, depends on the others. It is something Maribelle does not want. But it is something the group can use. In Jeanette’s dressing up for fight town, she is going to need some of these clothes.
 
If her jewelry can be found, then maybe she would want that. That depends if it was not found by the slavers and looters and remains hidden. It would be a large box, about the size of a carry-all men’s tool box. Teri may know where it is if Maribelle has not moved it. And if still there, there are a couple of wall safes, which for some reason Teri knows the combination numbers of but does not know how to open the safe. More money, personal fire arms, important documentation, jewelry and other interesting items can be found. But unless Teri goes to them would you want Moro to find them?
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Reply #2238 - May 6th, 2017, 6:42pm
 
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I remember Maribelle crying in part because she could not bring all of her clothes with her. Given the reason and the amount of time that has passed, I understand why she would now toss anything that she was crying over earlier. Since she will not want her cosmetics, there is no point in Moro saving it.
 
Also, since Maribelle would not want her old clothes, there is no point in saving socks and undergarments.
 
Moro would want the items in the safes recovered also. A combination lock is not a problem since it is, after all, a machine.
 
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Reply #2239 - May 6th, 2017, 8:59pm
 
Maribelle was crying because the end of her world was at hand. Everything that she was comfortable in - gone. Her father, the power, the money (money is still there, I think in the back of Joanna’s truck since this box is heavy), her other family members, the slaves (human and wessen), etc., etc., etc. all gone.
 
That and her home and things being violated (or thinks they were) only adds to it.
 
The thing, Ruth and the others from the same town know her, even went to school with her, and know how she can be and if she is going to travel with them, that “I’m a Queen, so bow down naďve!” attitude needs to be dealt with and eliminated as soon as possible. So her bossy attitude has no power or authority with them.
 
Clothes can be saved and recycled for others, even used in plans of infiltration. So it has its uses within the group even if Maribelle does not want them. The problem is storing them.
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