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I can see this for Gabriella and others, not for Maribelle. If you want to have a place for Marvin, La La and Li Li, that’s on you. I have not decided on where they should go after Fight Town, but to get them a vehicle of their own after Fight Town with what winnings Marvin may get is in the works. That is not an issue for me to post up when we reach that point. It’s getting to that point.
 
Take Karl, Fernando got him the Camper trailer because of the frozen cold Elsa created while Karl slept in his SUV. Poor guy was freezing in his SUV, though it did provide some protection. I’m not putting blame on Elsa, but the group should be more prepared for things like this and for Karl, a Camper with a heater inside is great for him. Getting a vehicle and camper for Marvin, La La and Li Li, it too would need to be heated. A basic vehicle/camper would be:
 
Basic Truck/SUV/Car, carbureted and slightly souped up to get hidden horse power. Must seat a minimum of 4 people (the VW Campers can seat 8 and I’m guessing Hondo’s camper truck can seat 10 or more). If it is a truck, if it has a rear bed, it should have a cap on it to protect what is in the truck’s bed. Like I stated, the TufPort cap would be best for maximum storage room. It can be used as temporary sleeping space but not living space, and it is not heated.  
 
Basic Camper/trailer, 20ft or less in length unless in special cases where 40/35/30ft trailers are being pulled. The large Dub Boxes are about 17ft in length, so that gives you an idea how big it is. It must have a gas-fuel (Butane/Propane/Multi-fuel) stove with a minimum of 1 burner, a 12v mini refrigerator and sink for a kitchen area. Shelving above and below in the kitchen area should have space to store food, cooking and eating utensils, and cleaning supplies (soap, sponges, rags, etc). It must have a toilet (compost toilet would be best) and shower facilities. Whether it is private or semi private, will remain to be seen. Furniture should open up to have storage space and double functions (sofas and chairs opening up into beds as an example). It must have running (pumped) water and electricity (to run lights and the water pumps). Electricity is under several options and better to have more than one option: Solar, Wind Turbine, gas generator, and/or battery. Must have a Grey Water (waste) tank and Clear Water (intake/storage) tank. Hot water is heated with an electric heater within an internal tank under the sink. Pipes are filtered so that no “unpleasant surprises” comes out of the sink, the filters are activated carbon filters with 10 micron capability so most chemicals and biological hazards are filtered out. Most campers will not have a heater, so a portable gas (Butane/Propane/Multi-fuel) heater is needed. Since there is a danger of Carbon Monoxide, always have a window open a bit to let air flow in the camper while it is heater. No matter how cold it is outside, the heater will warm up the incoming cold air. The Camper Trailer should be able to sleep as many people as its tow truck can seat.
 
For example, Karl’s camper, the seat cushions lift up to show storage areas where his guns, clothes, pillows and blankets are stored. Other things are stored as there is plenty of room under the seats. And a fold-a-away table is in the storage area under the seats. The seats open into a large bed. Not exactly King Size due to its shape fitting inside the camper but it should sleep 4, with 3 more can sleep on the floor in sleeping bags. Since his SUV can seat 4 (6 if you squeeze them in) the camper can handle this amount of people as well.  
 
Things like washing machines and CB Radios are optional and obtainable. It depends on the need since a CB Radio is needed more than washing clothes, a CB Radio would be one of the first options they would get. Funny, a CB radio that has been tricked out with extra channels and more power will cost as much as a washing machine.  A standard Emergency CB Radio would be in the camper, and a typical and modified CB radio would be in the dash board of the vehicle. After the CB Radios are put in, then a washing machine becomes a viable option.
 
Pots, pans, plates, bowls, cups and dishes are a necessity but a basic mess kit as posted before will suffice everyone in the camper.
 
Tents and camping stoves are optional. Fernando, Hondo/Val and Jeanette have their own camping stoves. I think the group has tents but they are yet to be used.
 
Weapons, hunting and fishing gear are an optional necessity and is based on trust. In the case of Maribelle, she would not have a firearm until she has proven herself worthy of one. Karl has proven himself and is thus armed accordingly. Marvin, La La and Li Li Fernando has a feeling he can trust them, as they do need something for self defense. Ruth and the girls have hunting rifles and archery sets, as well as fishing equipment. Fernando has his sets for fishing. And Hondo has hunting rifles and fishing gear as well. We should only hunt if we end up in a long ride where it takes several days to g from point A to point B. At most the group should only drive for 10 hours at most and then rest up and in Fernando’s case, recharge his bus’ batteries.

Quote from Fernando on Apr 17^th, 2017, 10:01pm:

Note: I need a cargo trailer, not a camping trailer.
 
Jeanette Isabelle

Quote from Jeanette on Apr 18^th, 2017, 2:28pm:

 
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Unless you're hauling a tractor trailer cargo box, there will always be a problem with space. A U-Haul box is small and bounce around on a rough road and they do not hold a lot. Take the space of a U-Haul box truck, the U-Haul trailer holds a quarter of that. Ans unless you're short, you cant walk in it without hitting your head. A Cargo Trailer box may be over kill for some. But who knows. What if we end up in a mass exodus to Charlton with over 80 or more people coming with us? If there is a centralized vehicle for all their stuff to be stored, then this would do it.
 
Site examples:
These are modified cargo trailer boxes (with wheels added): http://www.usacargotrailersales.com/inventory.html
 
These are basic shipping containers but they offer customization services. Thing is, it is just he box, it does not have the chassis there the trailer is on to give it wheels: http://kkcontainer.com/
 
This site is informative on cargo trailer boxes, chassis (for a pickup truck, a goose neck chassis is best), and offer customization services. They offer insulated cargo trailer boxes to keep things warm in the cold, cool in the heat and dry. I suggest to read their specs and information here before going elsewhere. A small 20ft (long) but high (9ft 6in) cargo box would be beneficial to store people's things if they bring a trunk or storage box with them to put their things in and then store it in the cargo trailer box.
http://www.iport.com/containers_for_sale.html
 
This is why I say go with a camper box, as it would be lighter than a container box. If you are using it for storage, you can have the box gutted out to the bare walls and leave it at that. At least you should keep the lights inside. But the choice is yours.
 
There are wrecked cargo trailer boxes out there. Unfortunately they would be broken,bent out of shape rusted And even with a chassis, they still need work. But the town's vendors recycle as many as they can get within their 10 mile highway cleaning area and sell them, adding services such as customization. I'm thinking if you get a 30ft cargo trailer box that is tall (9'6") , most would be 7ft wide. If you give yourself 2ft walking space, you can have drawers on both sides that are 2ft 6in deep. If they are 18in tall, and 6ft wide, you can have 5 drawers along the length of the cargo trailer box and 6 stacked up high on 2 rows from both walls. That gives you 60 storage boxes in the container. In a 20ft container, you probably get 40. In a gutted out camper box, maybe 20 smaller storage units. It depends on what you are expecting and what you want.

Quote from Hondo I. Sackett on Apr 17^th, 2017, 11:51pm:

I can't find a 1994 with a T18 or T19 transmission. The last year I see for that transmission is 1991. I see that the 351 V8 is available for the T18/T19 but not the 400. However, my source is not reliable.
 
I'll go with the 7.3 L Diesel with either the T18 or T 19.
 
Jeanette Isabelle

Quote from Fernando on Apr 18^th, 2017, 12:09pm:

Moro has not stopped walking except to buy a bag of roasted locusts. "I don't want your stuff although a few bottles of wine can be put to good use. I'm doing this because I understand the need to save what little earthly possessions a person has left."
 
"Are you speaking from your experience?" Maribelle asks.
 
"No but I've been close to people who lost everything and all that they have left can be packed in their luggage. It's a depressing situation. One guy died shortly after hitting bottom because he neglected his health. Others are messed up.
 
"For that reason, if there is anything I can do to save a person's sanity, I will do it. It's within my power to do this."
 
Jeanette Isabelle