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Re: After Chaos
Reply #2020 - Mar 31st, 2017, 5:17pm
 
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As you said, Penny does not have to be touched for her mind to be feed a distorted image. For Penny to accept it, her view would have been distorted before she could consent. Where does the law stand on that?
 
Moro already answered several of General Jastrey's questions in one statement: "Say the word and Charlton law enforcement offers will go to the Robinson estate and arrest Wilbur. Wilbur will then be brought to this settlement."
 
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Moro has dealt with anti-Spirit sentiment before and as an acting representative, she handles the situation like a professional. "Wilbur Robinson is a human whom we hired for the long-term care of Penny."
 
"Why do you need someone to raise Penny?" Jastrey immediately asks.
 
"Penny needed to be raised until she could be adopted. As a legal citizen of Charlton, Penny's adoption was filed with the Charlton court system yesterday morning after Jeanette signed the adoption papers Wednesday afternoon.
 
"I understand you, this town and this area have had bad dealings with Spirits in general. And quite frankly I would love to kick out the Spirits who give all Spirits a bad name. Penny has been in our legal care from the time she was born till her adoption. Hiring Wilbur is no different from hiring a butler to take care of Penny in our absence. We provided the housing and everything else needed. All Wilbur had to do was do his job."
 
Though Moro answered some questions even before they were asked, she answers them again. "Wilbur is in Charlton. He and Penny lived in an apartment along the outskirts of the town, the one with the cemetery statue in front of it."
 
"The angel statue?" Jastrey asks.
 

 
"That's the one." To answer a question, Moro repeats what she already said. "Say the word and Charlton law enforcement offers will go to the Robinson estate and arrest Wilbur. Wilbur will then be brought to this settlement."
 
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Re: After Chaos
Reply #2021 - Mar 31st, 2017, 7:17pm
 
Hondo waited a few minutes and tried the radio again. Nothing from Valentine. Hondo started to worry a bit but tried to shake it off.
 
Hondo: She's probably just blowing off some steam. . . Maybe I should ride out and look for her.
 
Tonya & Zoey: No!!!
 
Hondo gave them a surprised yet grumpy look.
 
Hondo: no?
 
Tonya: we mean, don't go alone. If something is wrong . . .
 
Zoey: I hope Mom is alright if she's not . . . it would be all my fault.
 
Hondo: Now, lets not go thinkin' the worst yet . . . and you two are right. I should talk to Fernando. I'll go see if he's free.
 
Hondo headed towards Fernando's camper.
 
 
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About 10 miles away east of town a high speed dirigible lets off a male Blutbad (wolf like wessen) with bright green hair on a 1952 Vincent Black lightening Motorcycle and a female Coyotl (coyote type wessen) with bright crimson hair on a 1948 Indian Chief with off road tires and a modified CB radio (Hondo's motorcycle last seen with Valentine.) The air ship takes off at a speed not seen in any other dirigible around. it heads straight east, away from the town. the two riders get themselves situated and look over their stuff. The man is muscular and wiry but not a big man. he wore jeans and a brown leather jacket with a bandanna on his head. The woman wore black leathers and no hat, but had her hair pulled back into a pony tail. both wore gun holsters but they were empty. Both bikes had rifle scabbards but those two were empty. The man had the shit beat out of him but tried not to show it. He had to force himself to sit upright still as his midsection was sore from the beating he received. the woman had a black eye and a besides the hidden bruises on her arm which caused her to wince whenever she used it she also limped from a sore link.
 
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Valentine woke up with a splitting headache. She tried to look around but could see little in the dark, damp environment. It smelled, bad, like mold and shit. she tried to move but found herself bound. This revelation cause an adrenaline surge and brought her right too. She was in some room without light, but what dim light streamed through the tiny barred window on the door. She was tied to a wooden chair, bound hand and foot. Her boots were gone, her jacket and overshirt gone, all she had on was a ripped up t-shirt and her jeans. She was sore all over but not sure exactly what happened. She thought hard and slowly her memory came back. She was driving back through a wooded trail when someone jumped out of a tree and knocked her off her bike. She had been knocked out and came to a while later, groggy but enough to remember she was being questioned. She remembered being questioned and being beat but she doesn't remember what was asked nor if she said anything.  Did they just get her or was everyone captured? She could only hope Hondo, the girls and Fernando were alright.
 
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Well the cowboy, like the red man, you had to leave your land
You can't raise your stock and plant your crop in the gumbo and the sand
Greed disguised as progress has put us to the test
They won't be glad until we're gone from our home out in the west
It's sad to see those good old days replaced with greed and doubt
Soon we'll leave the country, the campfire has gone out
Bid 'em all adieu, you can't turn the world about
The cowboy left the country, the campfire has gone out
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Re: After Chaos
Reply #2022 - Mar 31st, 2017, 7:51pm
 
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1) A child’s curiosity can be perversed by further exposure of such material of interest. An example of this can be the child finding pornographic material and then wanting to try out they find on whoever they find is also interested. In Penny’s case, she had a curiosity and someone or something perversed it. Unfortunately for Penny, this makes her a willing participant, and nullifies any crime Wilbur may have done to her
 
2) Though General Jastrey’s comment was anti-spirit in tone, it was not the content of the point she was giving. The point she was making is that there are various inexcusable crimes that will not be tolerated; slavery and child trafficking being two of them. In the recent history, though there were anti-slavery and anti-child-trafficking laws in the books but because the Slavers were in charge of the area as they were able to over-gun and over-whelm anyone who would dare oppose them. But with them out of the picture, the laws can now be enforced. In this case, it looks like Penny was tracked from whoever to Wilbur to Jeanette. What happened and why is what General Jastrey is trying to figure out.
 
Personal note: Grammatical issues (2 sentences above the picture) is makes the post difficult to understand.
 


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General Jastrey reviews what was said before giving her reply, “If this ‘Wilbur’ person is in Charlton Texas, there is no way we can enforce any of our law on their jurisdiction. If you want, you can register a complaint against ‘Wilbur’ of the crime he committed here and have a copy of the complaint sent by private courier to Charlton Texas. Thing is, it may take weeks if not months for complaint to get there, if it does get there at all.”
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Reply #2023 - Mar 31st, 2017, 10:02pm
 
Quote from Fernando on Mar 31st, 2017, 7:51pm:
1) A child’s curiosity can be perversed by further exposure of such material of interest. An example of this can be the child finding pornographic material and then wanting to try out they find on whoever they find is also interested. In Penny’s case, she had a curiosity and someone or something perversed it. Unfortunately for Penny, this makes her a willing participant, and nullifies any crime Wilbur may have done to her

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Valid point. However, we may not know or figure out what that example is unless we can get Wilbur to talk.
 
Quote from Fernando on Mar 31st, 2017, 7:51pm:
Personal note: Grammatical issues (2 sentences above the picture) is makes the post difficult to understand.

I reread my post and I only found one paragraph that may be confusing. Inserting the word "that" should help:
 
"I understand [that] you, this town and this area have had bad dealings with Spirits in general. And quite frankly I would love to kick out the Spirits who give all Spirits a bad name. Penny has been in our legal care from the time she was born till her adoption. Hiring Wilbur is no different from hiring a butler to take care of Penny in our absence. We provided the housing and everything else needed. All Wilbur had to do was do his job."
 
Quote from Fernando on Mar 31st, 2017, 7:51pm:
General Jastrey reviews what was said before giving her reply, “If this ‘Wilbur’ person is in Charlton Texas, there is no way we can enforce any of our law on their jurisdiction. If you want, you can register a complaint against ‘Wilbur’ of the crime he committed here and have a copy of the complaint sent by private courier to Charlton Texas. Thing is, it may take weeks if not months for complaint to get there, if it does get there at all.”

I accept that Fernando does not get it because of his point of view. However, in General Jastrey's point of view, Charlton has been a nation since it was created. There's no place called "Charlton, Texas."
 
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Moro does not understand why she has to say the same thing three times. "Wilbur can be arrested by Charlton law enforcement. Afterward he would be brought here. All that can be done today. I need to know if this town will take action if we proceed."
 
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Reply #2024 - Mar 31st, 2017, 11:04pm
 
Hondo found Fernando leaning against his camper. Tonya stay by the radio and Hondo had Zoey stay with her though she want d to come along.
 
Hondo: jefe, I might have messed up bad.
 
Fernando: what's wrong? Zoey alright?
 
Hondo: yeah but Val never returned and I can't raise her on the radio. I'm worried. I'd go out alone but I let her go out alone and now....
 
Fernando: we will find her.
 
Hondo: if anything happens to her. . . Besides the girls you and her are all I have. I hate to ask ya to go with me to look.
 
Fernando: you know you don't have to ask. Just save the negative thoughts until something bad happens and let's go.
 
Hondo: thanks Jefe. The Bronco is field or we can take motorcycles. I have Tonyas and one left from the slavers that should be good to go.
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Well the cowboy, like the red man, you had to leave your land
You can't raise your stock and plant your crop in the gumbo and the sand
Greed disguised as progress has put us to the test
They won't be glad until we're gone from our home out in the west
It's sad to see those good old days replaced with greed and doubt
Soon we'll leave the country, the campfire has gone out
Bid 'em all adieu, you can't turn the world about
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Re: After Chaos
Reply #2025 - Apr 1st, 2017, 12:23am
 
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"If this 'Wilbur' person is in Charlton, and you say you can have him arrested there, then why are you wasting my time? A good person who has done a lot for this community asked me if I can help and I promised that I would do what I can. I explained the law as it stands here and offered my services within my resources that I have. Instead I get a short winded explanation that you do not need the help. This is why we do not deal with spirits. You all are two faced and operate under the mantra of 'Serve Thy Self.' You do not care who gets hurt as long as you get what you want. And I see a girl in the middle of this situation which is being covered up to protect somebody. I better not find out she is being trafficked, or else you two will be in a jail cell tonight. Nothing in this is amusing. I do not find this amusing. So good day to you both. I have more important things to do than to waste my time where with you two." General Jastrey tells them both before she turns away and starts walking back to the Russian Tank Treaded vehicle.


"We will take the motorcycles." Fernando tells Hondo, adding, "You can take me to where you found Zoey and we will search from there."
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Reply #2026 - Apr 1st, 2017, 10:00am
 
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"General," Moro says, "I won't deny that we, the Texas Spirits, are motivated by our gain but we do need this town's help."
 
"What do you need?" Jastrey stops in her tracks. "You said you could arrest Wilbur in Charlton."
 
"I meant for the purpose of extraditing him. We can extradite Wilbur to this town but it is up to this town to try him since the crime took place in this town. I need to know if this town is willing to try Wilbur for crimes committed in this town. We will only extradite him if this town is willing to try him. Also, where do you want us to bring him?"
 
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For Wilbur to be extradited, he needs to be captured. How else is he to be captured except for Charlton law enforcement officers going to his place to arrest him?
 
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Re: After Chaos
Reply #2027 - Apr 1st, 2017, 1:46pm
 
Note: The point(s) of this post will be:
A - Establishing if a crime was committed by the standards of conduct of this 'town.' This includes when, where, how and who.
 
B - Crimes have a victim and a perpetrator. To establish if a crime was committed, the victim needs to be interviewed... alone. This is to make sure that she is not being coerced into implicating somebody into a crime that was not committed.
 
C - Because of the Happening and After Choas, the laws have changed. What was not acceptable back in the mid to late 20th and early 21th Centuries, may be acceptable now. Ethics and Morals of this time is lacking in terms of doing right for one's self instead of doing what is right for others. This is why sex-for-sale(& trade) and slavery are so rampant. The Wessens variable only adds to this debauchery.
 
D - Though women's rights have remained up to par with what was in the past, this is a very male orientated society. It is women like General Jastrey who got the 'balls' to deal with men on a "Man to Man" Basis.
 


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General Jastrey stops, turns around and crosses her arms as she faces them.
 
“Do not look for a bounty for bringing this ‘Wilbur’ person in. Before you can even go hunt for him to bring him here, you need to establish if a crime was done in the first place. That means interviewing the victim alone so she would not be coached into implicating somebody of a crime that has not happened. A crime like rape carries the Death Sentence, I am not going to send somebody to be hanged for a rape that never happened. Lesser crimes carry other punishments, but like I said, I am not going to send somebody to do years of hard labor for a crime that did not happen. Furthermore there are steps in the process that needs to be fulfilled. 1- Establishment of a crime. 2- Investigation and Interview. 3- Arrest and Interrogation. 4- Trial. 5- Verdict and 6- Sentencing. This can take months, if not a year or longer to do. According to Fernando, you do not have the time to invest to get this done. If there is an arrest, the victim has to be here during the trial, verdict and sentencing to see if justice was done. The only thing I can tell you is that you can make your complaint now and the victim interviewed to establish if a crime was done, and then later when you complete your work in Charlton can you bring the perpetrator here for arrest and trail to complete the process. Now, what do you want to do?” General Jastrey tells them.
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Re: After Chaos
Reply #2028 - Apr 1st, 2017, 6:51pm
 
Hondo nodded: thanks jefe. I'll go get the bikes ready. Meet me at my trailer in 10 and I'll be ready.  
 
Fernando nodded as Hondo trotted off to his storage trailer. Hondo wondered if Fernando even had a clue how much it meant to Hondo that he was there for him.
 
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Note: if Fernando  needs to grab any gear or talk with anyone before he goes with Hondo this is the place for it.
 
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Hondo grabbed some extra ammo, shoved a M1 Garande in the scabbard on Tonya's bike and Winchester 30-30 in the other bikes scabbard.  He threw a med kit the extra ammo and a spare pistol in the one bikes saddle bags as well as a small survival kit and left the bags in Tonya's bike empty for anything Fernando might want to take. He strapped on another pistol, put on his riding leathers, and then slung a short barreled shot gun across his back. He checked the oil quick like and fueled both biked, as well as strapping an extra can of fuel to both of them. He figured they could dump a container if they found her. He tried the radio one last time then told the girls to stay inside and by the radio. He hugged them both and reassured them that Valley was probably fine that maybe she just ran out of fuel or something. They didn't seem to believe it too much and neither did he. When he went outside Fernando was there and ready.
 
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Well the cowboy, like the red man, you had to leave your land
You can't raise your stock and plant your crop in the gumbo and the sand
Greed disguised as progress has put us to the test
They won't be glad until we're gone from our home out in the west
It's sad to see those good old days replaced with greed and doubt
Soon we'll leave the country, the campfire has gone out
Bid 'em all adieu, you can't turn the world about
The cowboy left the country, the campfire has gone out
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Reply #2029 - Apr 1st, 2017, 7:07pm
 
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I was not planning to reveal this until later; given the situation, I'll reveal it now. I haven't worked out the details; I planned to have this resolved quickly through a plea deal. The only thing the story needs from this situation is to know what exactly happened so that the characters will know how to respond.
 
Moro does not know that Wilbur would plea bargain. Therefore she does not bring it up.
 
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Jeanette has been quiet throughout most of the conversation. This time she speaks up. "I don't know what Fernando told you; the Texas Spirits gave us a job to do: rescue a Haibane girl."
 
"We can rearrange the schedule to pick up Gabrielle. Also there is no set date in bringing her to Charlton." Moro says to Jeanette. "Penny is more important right now." She then addresses Jastrey. "We can file a complaint now, leave for a few days to rescue a displaced Haibane, raid lab town and come back."
 
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