Quote from Fernando on Mar 3^rd, 2017, 3:33pm:

I thought you were saying Jesus may have not have walked on a planet because it was not required. Anyhow, you're right. There is no way for us to be certain. Here's a simple example: if A equals B and B equals C, we can then theorize A equals C but we can't be certain.
 

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If God did not make people on other planets after His Own Image, how did those people get there? Lucifer can't make people after God's image.
 
I don't believe in evolution. Either God put people on a planet or He didn't.
 
Adam and Eve of this world were not created with this world either. They were created later.
 
Jeanette Isabelle

The story is not progressing because there is more arguing than writing. Why don't we just end the RPG?
 
Jeanette Isabelle

Valentine finished up her breakfast. the girls were already done and had rinsed off their dishes. Ruth soon appeared at the door.
 
Valentine: Hi Ruth. Need something?
 
Ruth: No, but you do.
 
Valentine: I need something?
 
Ruth: yeah, some rest. We will take care of the dishes and the food in our camper.
 
Valentine: I saw everthing in here was already put up. Did you do that?
 
Ruth: Yeah. We all see how hard you work to keep things running at the camp, and I know you didn't sleep much last night. I saw you guys come in.
 
Valentine: You were up?
 
Ruth: I don't sleep a lot since. . .  
 
Valentine: I can imagine. . . . and thanks. I appreciate it.
 
Ruth: No sweat.
 
Ruth left with the rinsed dishes to wash. Valentine took a deep breath and sat back into the couch.
 
Tonya: Maybe you should get a nap.
 
Valentine: I would like to but . . . I need to talk to Zoey.
 
Tonya: You need me to keep Macey occupied?
 
Valentine: If you could.  
 
Tonya:What should I do?
 
Valentine: take her to their camper, help her clean up and get any laundry that needs done. I'm sure Fernando will want to just rest when he gets back.
 
Tonya: Ok.
 
Valentine: Send in Zoey when you see her.
 
Tonya: Will do.
 
Tonya went outside and found the girls sitting on the trucks running board. She got Macey to go with her and told Zoey that Valentine needed her. Zoey went inside to find Valentine reclined back in the recliner. Valentien tapped on the arm of the chair.  
 
Valentine: Sit here. We need to talk.
 
 
To be continued ...

At the outside table, Jeanette is finishing up at the time Valentine is finishing up.
 
"Penny." Jeanette says. "I need you to stay here with Mrs. Pointer."
 
"Okay." Penny answers.
 
"Moro, if you're done, there's something I want to discuss with you." Jeanette will talk to Moro about Wilbur, after she first talks to Fernando. There's a lesser reason for Jeanette wanting to talk to Moro.
 
"Elsa, I need for you to stay with Penny and Mrs. Pointer." Moro gets up and follows Jeanette.
 
Jeanette is with Moro in private. "Has Ariel been authorized to read a copy of my journals?"
 
"Not that I know of." Moro answers.
 
"Ariel brought a copy of a volume with her and, from what I gather, she has the complete set."
 
Moro has no knowledge of this. "I don't know much about Ariel; maybe she is authorized."
 
"What steps do you take to be sure that those who read the journals are authorized?"
 
"We keep record of who is authorized to read it and the location of each copy."
 
"Ariel said she inherited her copy from her grandfather, she has been reading the journals since she was a little girl, does not know where her grandfather got the journals and thought the journals were available to the general public."
 
"Thank you for letting me know. I can take it from here."
 
 
Moro is alone with Ariel. "I understand you have a copy of the journals?"
 
"The books Jeanette wrote?" Ariel asks. "Yes."
 
"All the journals?" Moro asks.
 
Ariel does not know what she has is considered "all." "They take up an entire bookshelf."
 
Moro nods as it sounds like Ariel has the complete set. "I understand you have one of the volumes with you. May I see it?"
 
Ariel walks to the gas Camper Dub Box, retrieves the volume she brought with her and hands it to Moro.
 
Moro opens it and conforms it is real. However, something is missing. "Each copy is numbered." Moro closes the book and hands it back to Ariel. "Hang onto to this until I understand what's going on."
 
Ariel accepts the copy and puts it back up.
 
Moro steps away from the Dub Box and gets on her mobile device. "This is Moro. Ariel has a copy of the journals and the volume she brought with her is real."
 
"What's the number of her copy?" Says the voice on the other end.
 
"That's one of the things odd. It isn't numbered."
 
There is a pause on the other end. "We'll look into this."
 
Jeanette Isabelle

Valentine almost choked on her own breath. She almost yelled out "what?!?" but stopped her self. She didn't want to make Zoey feel awkward about coming to her with things. She took a breath and thought for a moment. She had a feeling Macey was to thank for this some how.
 
Valentine: I take it this came from one of your and Macey's chats?
 
Zoey: She said her mom and the girls she worked with said men only like women with open legs as do some women.  
 
Valentine: Really?
 
Zoey: Yeah, and the only things that make a man love a woman is if she can cook and #$@!.
 
Valentine: Please don't use that word. I know Hondo uses that language when angry but you need to learn how to be a lady and swearing isn't proper for a lady in most conversations.
 
Zoey: When is a proper time?
 
Valentine: That is probably a conversation for another time. for now just please don't swear or use that word.
 
Zoey: Which word should I use?
 
Valentine: sex, making love, intercourse, any of those are fine. What else did Macey say?
 
Zoey: Just that from what she learned from there dad's and daughters should have sex but her new Dad is says no. she's not sure. All her life she was taught from many that love and sex are the same thing but now she is told different. I mean, maybe she's right. I've seen many people buy sex puppies and even have sex with others who aren't sex puppies. I .  .I  know some girls who were raped. I don't understand why. Macey said maybe it was because they were too selfish to give sex to those who loved them. maybe I . . .
 
Valentine: maybe you what?
 
Zoey: Never mind. Just thinking. So?
 
Valentine: Well, Let me ask you this, do you want to have sex with us?
 
Zoey: uhm . . Don't be upset but with you definitely no. With Dad . . . I don't know. I want you to love me, don't get me wrong but . . .
 
Valentine: I think I understand. He saved you.  Is that it?
 
Zoey: Yeah, partly. I feel like I owe him so much and I love him for what he did and more and want to have him love me as much and . .  . I don't know . . . I feel like I owe him whatever I can do for him, whatever I am. I want to be close to him and make him happy. what if what I'm feeling is pushing me to have sex with him because I'm suppose to, or that's what Macey said it might be.
 
Valentine: There is something more you aren't telling me.
 
Zoey nodded: Yes, but I . . . I just . . .I need time.  
 
Valentine: Alright. Well, Ill give you that. Anything else?
 
Zoey shook her head no.
 
Valentine: Alright. Well, I know you know Macey's background somewhat from her, and I know you have seen and been through some bad things, but know this, we love you for you, Sex is an act of love between two adults who want to give themselves to each other and please each other. sex is pleasurable if done right and many seek this pleasure outside of normal relationships. I'll admit there is some grey areas for single adults, but children should never have sex or be used for sex and adults who truly give themselves to another should never have sex with others.  
 
Zoey: But is sex love?
 
Valentine: No. It's a gift, and action of pleasure and if done right done not to gain pleasure but to give pleasure to another. but this should be saved for one of whom you trust and want to give yourself to and whom wants to give themselves to you. Two consenting adults can have sex but without love it is a meaning less action. Hondo loves you and you love him. Sex between you would be wrong in many ways. You are not old enough, he is now your father and he and I have given ourselves to each other. There are other reasons that we will talk about overtime but sex isn't love.
 
Zoey: I think I understand. It's all so confusing. but why can't we shower together if we aren't doing it for sex?
 
Valentine: Hondo told me about this. First can I ask why you want this?
 
Zoey: well . .  maybe its silly.  
 
Valentine: If it's important to you it's important to me.
 
Zoey: Its . . .its just one of the last memories I had when I was young before I was taken from my . . .my birth parents.
 
Valentine: You were very young when you were taken, I have been told.
 
Zoey: yeah. I know the three of us used to shower together but . .  I remember my father more so than my mother.
 
Valentine: So you were daddy's girl.
 
Zoey: sort of. I remember my mother was sick or something. she used to have to use the sticks under her arms to walk, I think.  
 
Valentine: Crutches?
 
Zoey: I think so. I just remember my father had to take care of both of us.
 
Valentine: That explains a lot.
 
Zoey: So, is this wrong too?
 
Valentine: At your age its not appropriate for a young girl to be naked with her father in the shower. not that its wrong for him to see your body when needed. Never be ashamed of your body. which is another reason for not having sex with family. You should be able to trust your body around them. I know you want to recreate these memories but trying to will only cause issues. Hold onto those memories to remember your birth parent and create new memories with Hondo.  
 
Zoey: I guess I understand some of it.
 
Valentine: but you don't like it?
 
Zoey: yeah, kind of. I just don't understand what harm it would do. I understand the sex thing. It's what I originally thought until Macey said different, but what can a shower hurt?
 
Valentine: can you just trust me on it for now?
 
Zoey: yeah. I can do that.
 
Valentine: OK. good.
 
About that time a vehicle pulled up. Zoey got up and looked out the window.
 
Zoey: It's dad!
 
Zoey ran out the door. Valentine sighed a sigh of relief. She didn't feel that she did that conversation justice at all. there was so much she wished she had said and some she wish she had said better or differently. She hoped she had gotten through. Macey worried her and though it would be easier to separate them she did not wish to hurt Zoey like that nor did she wish to alienate Macey as Macey needed understanding and Fernando could use the help with her as he had too much going on to give her his full attention. She waited for Hondo to come in. she only now realized how tired she really was.
 
To be continued . . .