Quote from Jeanette on Jan 29^th, 2017, 11:46am:

Jeanette and the others go with Ariel's suggestion. Ariel helps them to set up the table and chairs so that everyone who wants may have breakfast as a group outside.
 
Mavis and her family are sensitive to the sun so she wears a wide-brimmed hat as she eats outside.
 
"Moro." Jeanette asks. "Are there many Jews in Charlton or is Charlton full of Torah-following gentiles?"
 
Moro does not get into how many Jews there are in Charlton; instead, she addresses what she and other Texas Spirits feel is important. "How many there are is not important; the Jews who remain in Charlton are the descendants of the Jews whom we, the Texas Spirits, saved from being murdered. As you know, Jeanette, when a person murders another person, that murderer does not kill just that individual. The murderer kills that one person and every one of the victim's descendants, meaning the victim's descendants would never exist, which could have been many."
 
"Referring just to those who were about to be murdered, how many lives did you save?"
 
"Millions."
 
"Millions?" Jeanette exclaims. "How on earth does Charlton stop millions of murders? For you to stop millions of murders, there would have to be millions of attempted murders that could have succeeded if you had not stepped in. When could all of these attempted murders have taken place?"
 
"There was the holocaust." Moro answers. "And there many other times throughout history when Jews were executed just for being a Jew. Of course when we brought them to a safe place, we kept them in their respective time."
 
Jeanette has several questions. "Haven't you considered the possibility you may have teleported a person who would have survived and therefore you had just then altered history?"
 
"We wait to make sure no one could survive before getting any of them out."
 
"How can you be so sure?" Jeanette asks. "By your own admittance your short range censors are junk."
 
"True. However, our life signs detectors work well and are able to track a specific life sign or a number of specific life signs. In addition, we have eyes and ears on the ground."
 
"How is that different from short range sensors?"
 
"Life signs from a life signs detector show up as blimps on the screen. If we want to, we can track life signs of a specific individual or a group of specific people."
 
"So you wait until just before they are gassed. I think it is common knowledge as to what takes place before Jews are sent to the gas chamber. They are told it is a shower so they walk in with no clothes. From what you just told me, that is when you get them out. What next? Do you tell them you had just saved their lives and now they are free to go?"
 
"We clothed, feed and provided them a place to sleep until they are on their feet."
 
"You save their lives, provide them clothes, food and a place to sleep. Do you hold them prisoner within the walls of Charlton?"
 
"No. They are free to go. We will even help them move if they are unable to on their own."
 
"Even with all that, you are altering history. A Jewish man who would have died may get married to a Jewish woman who would have lived without your interference. That woman would have otherwise married someone else and history is altered. Or a Jewish couple, which would have died, gets married and a baby who would not have existed now exists."
 
"If the Jewish couple in your illustration, and every one of their descendants, remain in Charlton, how is history altered? What I mean is, if their existence does not impact the gene pool outside of Charlton, how is history altered?"
 
"They could move to Israel." Jeanette states.
 
"Yes, they could. And because we help do defend our friend Israel, they could be safe there too."
 
Jeanette asks the most important question in this discussion: "You create a Jewish-friendly nation, save the lives of millions of Jews and do everything in your power to protect the lives of Jews in and outside of Charlton. Why?"
 
"In Genesis 12:3 God is speaking to Abram. 'I will bless those who bless you, but I will curse anyone who curses you; and by you all the families of the earth will be blessed.'"
 
"Time out! All of this because you want God's blessing?"
 
"Yes."
 
"I never heard that one before."
 
"God made a covenant. He can't go against His covenant. He has to bless everyone who blesses the Israelites."
 
Jeanette points out a potential flaw. "It says 'and by you all the families of the earth will be blessed.' You are not from Earth."
 
"I mentioned to you when my ancestors arrived on Earth."
 
"You said your ancestors arrived here on Earth shortly after the great flood." Jeanette realizes what Moro is getting at. "Your ancestors have been here on Earth for some time prior to God making that covenant with Abram. So, how is that blessing working out for you? Is Charlton richer than Saudi Arabia?"
 
"Charlton has zero point energy power plants all over North America and all of our trains run on zero point energy."
 
"Oh, I see. You have something better than all of the oil in Saudi Arabia. It sounds like you are being honest. I can't imagine anyone admitting to all that if it were not true." Jeanette looks around. "Has anyone seen Fernando?"
 
Jeanette Isabelle

Removing that small part does not harm the rest of the post. Therefore I'll take it out.
 
Quote from Fernando on Feb 13^th, 2017, 7:10pm:

In the post you quoted the Texas Spirits acted just before people were gassed. Therefore, unless the U.S. Army used technology to remove people from a death chamber, it would be impossible for Texas Spirits to alter history that way.
 
Quote from Fernando on Feb 13^th, 2017, 7:10pm:

The Texas Spirits teleported people out of certain death situations, waiting to be sure there is no other way they could survive otherwise. Therefore, it would be impossible for them to follow the Texas Spirits anywhere.
 
Quote from Fernando on Feb 13^th, 2017, 7:10pm:

This is nothing new. I have borrowed Stargate since Day 1.
 
Quote from Fernando on Feb 13^th, 2017, 7:10pm:

Why would power plants need to be dug up when the people who built them knew which areas would be safe for power plants?
 
Quote from Fernando on Feb 13^th, 2017, 7:10pm:

It was also mentioned that the trains the Texas Spirits designed and built are self-powered. These trains don't need overhead lines.
 
Quote from Fernando on Feb 13^th, 2017, 7:10pm:

Moro just admitted to why the Texas Spirits did what they did. If that is not the truth then by all means, enlighten everyone reading this. Tell us, what really is the truth?
 
Nowhere is it mention that the Texas Spirits are using zero point energy or any other technology as a lure.
 
Quote from Fernando on Feb 13^th, 2017, 7:10pm:

If there were only one zero point energy power plant, the Texas Spirits would not be able to do what they are doing. Therefore, I'm not changing that.
 
Jeanette Isabelle

NOTE: Though I am writing up my post, I will be taking a few days off because I am mot feeling well and need rest to heal and get better. When done I will either post it or give it to Hondo to post for me.
 
You need to read up on your history. The Germans were very meticulous with their paperwork and their body counts. If 100 people went to the gas chambers, 100 bodies better have been pulled out. If one person is missing, they will tear up the entire base to look for and find that 1 missing person. People being teleported away from the gas chambers would have made things worst for everyone.
 
I will also throw this at you. Nazi's were already dealing with advanced alien technologies and Time Travel in real life. A lot of it was/is under speculation to this day but there is no denying the truth, the Nazis were hundreds if not thousands of years advanced of everybody. They were already making attempts in time travel and space travel, and used radio controlled UFO drones to attack our bombers which were documented as "Foo Fighters".
 
Nazi Time Travel:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_Glocke
http://www.neonnettle.com/features/439-new-revelations-suggest-the-nazi-bell-was -a-secret-worm-hole-machine
http://www.history.com/shows/ancient-aliens/videos/the-nazi-bell
 
Nazi-Alien Connections:
http://www.aliens-everything-you-want-to-know.com/AlienNaziConnection.html
http://www.roswellufomuseum.com/research/ufotopics/naziufocrash.html
http://exopolitics.org/reptilian-aliens-helped-nazi-germany-build-secret-space-p rogram-in-antarctica/
 
In RPG or in RL, your "Spirits" would have been outclassed and out done by the Nazi "Spirits" of the time. Any interference by your "Spirit" Group would not have gone unnoticed, as viscous the Nazis were, Your Spirits and the people they saved would have been hunted down, massacred and made as an example for others to follow. If your “Spirits” think they could get away with it, this would have ramped up Nazi Time Travel research (which their alien friends already had) and would have used this Time Travel Technology to hunt down your Texas Spirits down and eliminate them permanently.
 
Because the Nazis were doing Time Travel, Space Travel and Atomic Research before anyone else put them hundreds if not thousands of years ahead of everyone else, and with Alien assistance, there was no way in stopping them. During WWII, the Allied armies, navies and air forces had to fight “Foo Fighters” – radio controlled UFO fighters. This is documented historical fact. The Nazis were 1 year away from the atomic bomb, 6 months from the V3 Rocket, capable of carrying an atomic bomb to the continental USA. The only thing that stopped them was the US/Allied forces and the USSR/Soviet forces cutting off major supply lines and invasion of Germany at the same time. The Spirits would not have been able to have to do this. In short, they would have been been powerless. And you claim what they did in what they did? Impossible. Not with these known facts.
 
In short, in doing what they claim they did have sealed their fate in the annihilation of their kind throughout time. They have doomed themselves into extinction before their own creation because they do not care in who they had messed with. Thus this Jewish – Spirit thing ends, if it does not, and you continue to post as such, Charlton will be destroyed in the past and the spirits eliminated before they arrive to earth. And the few Time Travelers that could help, wont. Thus the RPG ends before it will even begin. That crow on Jeanette’s PC Screen would have never existed. This is what will happen, because you as a writer cannot leave things well enough alone. You cannot have it your way, you cannot win all the time. For you this is “The End.”
 
You are dealing with a subject that you do not understand the ramifications thereof in trying to be a “Super Writer.” Worst – you are writing without knowing the facts. “Oh, they are just German soldiers and a Nazi Government...” Wrong! It is not working and it will fall flat in its face. Your only recourse here is to rescind and catch these spirits in a lie of their statements that does not exist. There are no ZPM based power plants in the USA outside of Charlton, they were rebuilt by the communities around them. There are no Trains from Charlton heading out 100 miles outside of heir city, because that is how far electricity flows on a power conduit. And you forgot one thing – those they sent to the gas chambers were the invalid, the crippled, the sick, the old and elderly, the extremely young, the mentally retarded and mentally ill, the criminally minded, the deformed, the sterile, the homosexuals, and those unable to work as they were filtered out of the general population first before over-crowding forced them to kill more indiscriminately years later. So these are the Jewish people they rescued? Putting them into a world of mutants and individuals of wessen like in appearance? Go back to Moses’ time and look at those the ancient Egyptians worshipped. What would you do if you are a Jew and see a human like person with cat-like features on their faces or wings, what are you going to do? Flee the city you were brought too because in your cultural memory you have been sent back 5000 years to a time of slavery of your people. You see how all this is failing? This, among the many other reasons stated is why you need to stop and put an end to this. So cut the shit already. This experiment you are trying to make has failed.

You are not even thinking. The Nazi's would machine-gun down the 1000s on the line for that 1 to be found. They would not kill each each other. Period.
 
I remember this Pic, despite what the Internet says of it, but of that my History teacher said of it in 1980. Mr Mendelson stated that the child in the picture was his great uncle. This child hid in the Warsaw Ghettos for 2weeks and was hunted down because it was stated he was an underground messenger so the Ghetto tried to hide him from the SS. While in hiding, the SS took families out into the streets and killed them. They burnt houses down with families still in it and if they tried to escape, shoot anyone that runs out. Finally, that boy came out to save the others. The others were killed anyways. The boy was sent to the concentration camp in Krakow, where he would be killed.

 
 
As Technology Advanced as the Germans were, they made many mistakes. Use of slave labor meant that 1/2 of their advanced devices would be sabotaged. They were also out numbered. Germany only had 10 million citizens and 1/2 of them they put into concentration camps. They stretched their numbers to the max to defend Germany from Great Brittan, Russia/Soviet Union, The USA, who out numbered them 20 to 1. It would be a matter of time that they either become so technology advanced that they wiped us out or we won by sheer numbers and force. Guess who won and why? Even at the end of the war, they were flying jet fighter planes and they were shot down by the Tuskegee Airmen in the P51 Mustang - propeller powered planes.
(See #1) http://www.history.com/news/the-tuskegee-airmen-5-fascinating-facts
 
 
I'm going by what is known historically and culturally as fact and the living tome of what there is. What the Texas Spirits stated is a damn lie because with what is know is not possible:
 
1- The Nazi Aliens would have went after them if they would have interfered with the work in Nazi Germany. And when found, the Nazi Aliens would have eliminated the Texas Spirits and Tie Traveled to see where they came from and destroyed them there too, before they would come to earth. Face this fact - War is won by any means necessary, including the killing of innocents. Period.
 
2- You got mutants with dog, cat heads/faces and other features and birds ruling the city and yet you put Jews in it. Cultural memory would tell them that they were sent back to Ancient Egypt and the slavery they were under at the time. But "they were rescued from the holocaust." In their minds they were brought back to Egypt. You think they want to stay? No.
 
3- They do not deal with Spirits, so the Spirits are forcing upon them what is to be done without their permission. Go back to #2. The Jews would rather die than deal with a Spirit.  
 
4- So you have the Spirits FORCING THEIR WILL on others. They are giving them the choice "Do what we say in our city or be sent back where you will die." This does not have to be said but it it definitely implied. When you rescue a person, you give them a choice. You do not force one choice over another. You do not imprison those you have rescued. This is what the Spirits are doing.
 
5- They think that they can get on God's Good side because they are "serving his people?" What a load of crock that is. There is no working to get on God's good side. One either believes and acts on his son's teaching or walk away from it and let God judge for himself as to what to do with you. There is no "Good side" for them to work for. There are no Brownie Points, boot licking, ass kissing of God to get to his good side. One helps others regardless of who the others are. You help anyone and everyone without discrimination or you help no one. To help the Jews so they can get on God's Good side, they are living a lie.
 
6- If the spirits are "Other Worldly" they would not need an income. They would not be working for the dollar. They would either be in service for others or for themselves. Everything seen so far is for them so they are self serving.
 
7- In rescuing these people from their historical deaths, they have been denied from their entrance into heaven. How is denying one from heaven doing work to get on God's good side? It is not. It can never be. And it will never be.
 
8- The only Aliens to use ZPMs were the Go-Aulds. The Go-Aulds were the ones that enslaved the Jews in Ancient Egypt. Go back to #2.
 
These and a lot more are the lies the Spirits are doing. If you do not see it you should reconsider what you are doing and why because you are insulting a lot of people. This is why people do not want to join this RPG.
 
You are trying to build a Utopia that does not and can not exist. A Jewish Promised Land where no one else is welcomed and the Jews would not allow themselves to be. So it is a ghost town filled with wanna be's enforcing laws they know little about because those who wrote those laws do not want to deal with them. Cut it out with the Spirits this and the spirits that and Charlton is the new Garden of Eden, because none of this is true.
 
 
My next reply should be before Wednesday. Hopefully I will be better by then.
 
 
Quote from Jeanette on Feb 18^th, 2017, 12:03pm:

Quote from Jeanette on Feb 20^th, 2017, 1:08pm:

 
This one move of interference creates a temporal war between the Texas Spirits, and the Nazi Aliens group, which will lead to the Texas' Spirit and their home world's destruction. And for what? Rescuing dead people?
 
Respect the dead and leave them lie where they fall. History will not be rewritten because idiots thinking that they would be on God's Good side because they helped out "his people." This is not God's work, this is not God's will, this is not what God wants because they are denying those from entering his kingdom when they were supposed to arrive.