Quote from Hondo I. Sackett on Jan 30th, 2017, 1:27pm:And as far as the generations go, count jesus. That's 14.
Clearly I need to prove to you that I know how to count.
1 And after they were brought to Babylon, Jechonias begat Salathiel;
2 and Salathiel begat Zorobabel;
3 And Zorobabel begat Abiud;
4 and Abiud begat Eliakim;
5 and Eliakim begat Azor;
6 And Azor begat Sadoc;
7 and Sadoc begat Achim;
8 and Achim begat Eliud;
9 And Eliud begat Eleazar;
10 and Eleazar begat Matthan;
11 and Matthan begat Jacob;
12 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary,
13 of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.
Quote from Hondo I. Sackett on Jan 30th, 2017, 1:27pm:Luke was the lineage through Mary.
Luke clearly states that this is Joseph's genealogy.
And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli, -- Luke3:23, KJV
Of course we know Joseph is not Jesus' biological father. Joseph is Jesus' stepfather.
Quote from Hondo I. Sackett on Jan 30th, 2017, 1:27pm:If you believe the bible is full of errors then can any of it be believed?
I'm presenting one example. I know of several examples in which something seems off but is not. There really is fourteen generations; in the King James Versions and most other English translations it appears there is only thirteen.
I can explain why there is in fact fourteen generations when it appears there is only thirteen; you wouldn't believe me. You said you studied Greek therefore you are able to see it for yourself. You knowing Greek, therefore are able to see it for yourself, is the reason why I picked this example.
Jeanette Isabelle
You still are not counting right. Count the names.14 names = 14 generations. And as far as Luke's again n. It says Joseph was his supposed father. From a human view he was Jesus father. There is no word for father in law in the Greek as it was custom that once married the two were one so the wife's father IS the husbands father too. Yes it have taken classes in the Jewish traditions of the Bible and have read the wrong tings of Josephus. How does a engineering cowboy get this knowledge? Not only raised in church but went to a Christian non denominational college for 7 years where I got my engineering degree and they required Bible classes every semester and for the first 4 semesters 2 a semester. Plus I have studies on my own. My father was also a preacher for several years. But anyway, back to Luke. Once again you must look at the crowd they are talking to. I'd go into detail as I am not sure you would understand since you still have counted 14 names wrong several times. The short of it Matthews crowd was interested in parental lineage to David. Joseph was legally Jesus's father and Matthew proved legally he was in line to the throne. Luke's crowd was more worried about blood lines. And through Joseph's father in law, remember, culturally even in the Bible women we subservient to men which would account for them talking about Joseph instead of Mary.
Now I know I said no more and I broke it but I mean no more! This is an RPG not a theological debate. You want to start a debate, start one in the Bible section. Maybe we will respond or maybe we will ignore it. You can post RPG stuff but any further arguing on this matter is not up for discussion and will be deleted from this thread as it neither adds clarity nor substance to the RPG.
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