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After Chaos (Read 185822 times)
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Reply #1840 - Dec 28th, 2016, 5:06pm
 
Jeanette does not know why her agreement with the Texas Spirits entered into the conversation. She leaves that alone for the time being. "I don't know international law. According to her papers, Penny was born in Charlton. For that reason I would think she was a citizen of Charlton during the seven years she was under Wilbur's care, for a lack of a better term. Therefore wouldn't the trail be held in Charlton?"
 
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Reply #1841 - Dec 28th, 2016, 5:30pm
 
"Penny being born in Charlton has nothing to do with what happened here in the form of a crime against her. If a couple from Mexico goes to New York and the male murders the female, the male has broken New York Law with the crime of Homicide. If it is done with intent, then it goes up to Murder. The female who is the victim of the crime is a crime victim in New York - her being from Mexico has nothing to do with being a victim in New York. It is up to New York to try the male for doing the crime in New York. If the male flees to Mexico, it is up to New York to contact Mexico for possible capture and extrication back to New York, and they would have to follow Mexican law in this request of capture and extrication. If New York sends police to arrest the male in Mexican Soil without making such a request or in defiance of a denial of the request, then New York's police can be arrested in Mexico for kidnapping of one of their citizens. As is, fleeing to Mexico gives the perpetrator protection under Mexican law. The same applies to Wilbur being in Charlton." Val tells Jeanette, "As Penny's mother, you need to decide what is best for her and teach her right from wrong. Demanding extrication and if successful, trying him for crimes against your little girl is going to take months if not years to do. You will also be re-exposing Penny to reliving those memories she has lived through before in his trial. That can be detrimental to her. You need to deal with this one way or another that is best for Penny. Have you talked to her about having him arrested? Maybe she does not want too have him arrested, maybe she likes him so much that she would testify against you for bringing up false charges against him. You need to find out what she wants and decide if it is right or wrong for her. Only you can decide that."
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Reply #1842 - Dec 28th, 2016, 8:10pm
 
Jeanette nods, acknowledging she understands Valentine's illustration of the Mexican couple in New York. "I will discuss this with Fernando when he returns." Jeanette has a sinking feeling. "I have not talked to Penny other than asking her what happened and she telling me. Penny described what happened as if there was nothing wrong."
 
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Reply #1843 - Dec 28th, 2016, 8:40pm
 
"You need to think, Jeanette. In what Penny had told you, was she a willing participant, did she approached him first, or was her mind poisoned to accept bad things as good? That is one hell of a judgement call to make and it all depends on what she tells you. But you need to understand that all girls are different, some are more promiscuous than others. Some are more exploratory than others. In our time and not this damn place, I knew of bar girls as young as 14, with some as young as 12, because they learned young that if they hung out in such places and did a few gentlemanly favors here and there, they can get a lot of money for it. On the other side of the spectrum, I have known women who are virgins trying to save it for their wedding night but they are now in their 40s and still without a husband. It takes all sorts to make a world. And in this world, they include sex puppies like Teri. I'm not saying it is right or wrong, because I can not judge for in this world the rules have changed and we are not of this world." Val explains.
 
She adds, "As a parent to Zoey and Tonya, I will do what I can for them - whether it is right or wrong as a parent for me to do so. Hondo as well. And Fernando is doing what he can with Macey - right or wrong, and mind you, she I would consider as a bar girl because of where she came from and how she used to behave, and there has been a dramatic change to the three of them since we got them, a change I can see that is for the better. I hope that in the end they grow up as adults like us. You need to keep in mind as a parent about Penny - whether she is a willing participant, initiated first contact, or was poisoned to accept bad as good; and then deal with and teach her right from wrong. If not, she is only going to tell you things that will keep Wilbur out of trouble. You do not want that, for you do not want a child, your child, to lie to you."
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Reply #1844 - Dec 28th, 2016, 9:33pm
 
"As far as I learned, though there could be things Penny has not told me, poisoning Penny's mind is as far as Wilbur took it. I don't know who initiated it. Penny is comfortable in her skin; in the short time I've known her I've not seen her do anything I would consider promiscuous. The only thing that has tipped me off is what she said to Ariel.
 
"The impression I have is that her mind is so poisoned that she has accepted bad things as good." Jeanette answers. "Penny may have accepted the poison as compliments. As for being exploratory, Penny is curious to a point . . . I would say slightly above average for a girl her age."
 
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Reply #1845 - Dec 28th, 2016, 9:46pm
 
"Then you better keep an eye on her. I need to go buy a few things my supplies are low on." Val tells her.
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Reply #1846 - Dec 28th, 2016, 10:04pm
 
"Okay, and thank you, Valentine. Penny is in your camper with Macey and Zoey. I'll join them." Jeanette leaves and steps in Hondo and Valentine's camper.
 
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Reply #1847 - Dec 29th, 2016, 3:14pm
 
As Val heads to Karl's camper, she thinks that Maribelle better be there waiting as she was told to so. She did not expect Jason to be there with her. He breaks away from Maribelle and head directly to her.
 
"Excuse me Miss. I would like to trade a few items I have in this bag with what you and the crew are cooking. Would that be alright with you?" He asks Val.
 
Val looks at the bag he is carrying before telling him, "Go in the camper and talk to Ruth. I have to go into town." She steps around him to Maribelle, "Lets go."
 
In a couple of minutes they at that town gate and heading to the open area market.
 
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Reply #1848 - Dec 29th, 2016, 4:17pm
 
Note: sitting here waiting on a pumped and had a small post idea.  Will tread lightly and change if needed.  
 
Penney entered the camper on her mothers orders and saw Ruth,  Tonya,  and Teri in the kitchen.  
 
Tonya: hi Penny,  what you up to?  
 
Penny: Momma is talking with Miss Valentine and told me I could go talk to Macey and Zoey.  
 
Tonya: they are in the bed room at the moment,  go ahead.  
 
Penny headed to the bed room.  
 
 
Zoey: I'm not sure about that. It doesn't  sound right.  
 
Macey: that's what Dad says but Ma and the other girls used to say that is all men want.  
 
Zoey: I'll have to ask dad about that.  
 
Macey: don't tell him I said anything.  He'll tell my Dad then I'll get spanked again.  
 
Penny came in about that moment.  
 
Penny :hello?  
 
Zoey: hi Penny
 
Macey: hi ya!  
 
Penny: what you talking about?  
 
Macey: we we're talking about how my ma said.  . .Oohff.  
 
Zoey elbowed Lacey in the stomach knocking the wind from her momentarily.  
 
Macey: hey!  What was that about?  
 
Zoey whispered to Macey: you really want the wrath of the dragon lady and our dads on us??  
 
Penny overheard: who's the dragon lady?  
 
Zoey (not wanting to lie) : uhm,  she's uhm,  she's.  . .
 
Macey took over for her stumbling friend: you wouldn't know her.  But enough about that.  I hear you sew.  Some of the girls in the ( Zoey gave her a look).  . .at the home I used to stay at did some but I never learned.  
 
Penny: it's really quite easy.  
 
That worked as Penny told them all about sewing.  When she wasn't looking they gave each other that look of relief knowing they had just dodged a bullet.  
 
 
 
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Well the cowboy, like the red man, you had to leave your land
You can't raise your stock and plant your crop in the gumbo and the sand
Greed disguised as progress has put us to the test
They won't be glad until we're gone from our home out in the west
It's sad to see those good old days replaced with greed and doubt
Soon we'll leave the country, the campfire has gone out
Bid 'em all adieu, you can't turn the world about
The cowboy left the country, the campfire has gone out
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Reply #1849 - Dec 29th, 2016, 5:47pm
 
As Penny explains threading a needle, she reads Macey and Zoey's faces. "I think it would be better if I show you instead of trying to explain it. Do you want me to get my sewing kit and bring it here?"
 
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