Quote from Jeanette on Dec 22^nd, 2016, 6:01pm:

 
This is probably one of the sickest posts done by anyone thus far.
 
First off, it's misleading. Any female with a vagina can have sex. Any male or female with an anal orifice used as in place of a vagina for penetration can have (anal) sex. Any male or female willing to use their mouth for the act of fellatio or cunnilingus is having (oral) sex. So, in these cases, Penny not being able to have sex it a lie.
 
Two - a older teen or adult person willing to put a child through the act of sexual intercourse is sick and should be dealt with the harshest punishment allowed by law. Do note that until only recently (1920's or so), this was OK in this American Society and it is still acceptable in other cultures, especially in Islam where they are still 1500 years behind everyone else in terms of social cultural standing and equal rights for all. Also in many Oriental Asian nations like Laos, Cambodia and other nations of the area.  After 1920, America gave a lot of rights to women and made them socially equal to men in many areas, sex with pre-tween girls made illegal for the most part in most states. I don't approve of it nor I disapprove of it either. This is a very touchy subject to deal with.
 
Three - I/(OC Fernando) he (we) have seen some very sick shit in my/his (our) time, so I am a bit more tolerant letting things go. Hondo may not. He might for he can delete such posts or alter them entirely to remove the offensive material. But I will say that is offensive in that this character (Penny) it being used and does not know her head from a hole in the ground. To specifically state that a certain part of the body is beautiful is a load a crap. Again, this is about internal and external beauty. She thinks its beautiful, I think its disturbing. It accounts that Penny thinks of her self as parts, and not as a whole person, and that is not good. So that needs to change immediately. I do not care how or why but is has to change. This is sick. No girl in her right or left mind would think in these terms. Those that I seen in my many years, did not live that long. A girl is a lot more than the sum of her parts, she is a person and Peeny needs to think this or if this were real life - somebody is going to bend her over and shove something up her wazoo. And that is the damn truth.
 
I'm going to end this here for now. And I mean end.

The scene involving the girl with the dog, the girl is at least 16 to 17 years old, which is legal in many states. You're using somebody who is under the age of 10, which makes it pedophilia, child molestation and child porn by description. Sex with the dog is bestiality, which to some is disturbing but others find it normal and even acceptable. Especially if somebody chooses to partake in such activity as a willing participant.
 
Secondly, In a situation like this RPG is set in, society's view on what are "men" and what are "women" depends on various views of when one can take on the responsibilities of an adult by a certain age. In the 1800s, that can be from 13 to 16 when a bay goes out to take an apprenticeship before taking on a job and a girl can be considered as marriageable which is usually by the start of her menstrual cycle. Thus, no cycle for a girl, she is still a child.
 
This is where I am bending the rule, though Hondo may want to not bend them: if a child can be considered as an adult due to their physical maturity and ability to take on responsibilities then by old world standards - they are an adult.
 
Macey is 12, right at the cusp of her starting her maturity but still acts like a girl, especially around Zoey because she did not have a childhood. Remember where she was raised up and seen all her life - a Whore House. Because f these things she thinks is normal, she's willing to take things to the next level with her caregiver because that is what she is believes is right. But, look at Fernando's actions - he's trying to teach her how things should be by unteaching her what she thinks is right as wrong. For him this will not be an easy process.
 
In the situation outside Macey's home, kids grow up fast in terms of sex and carnal knowledge. This is true for many ghetto raised kids who fall into gangs and other activities, where they have to do things for both respect and attention. Ike the Mike is around 17, and is leading a band of teen and preteen thugs of both male and females. In the post, I state that he was 20, but he is a lot younger because living such a rough life one ages quicker by appearance. If he was an adult, he would have been on the highway riding his bike with his raider band instead of being on foot. The biggest hint to Ike the Mike's age was him calling to Fernando "Yo Mister" instead of "Yo" or "Hey you."
 
I'm not going to write anything for you. I'm letting you know that because you are using a child in a way some might find unacceptable, you need to watch what you post. If it crosses certain lines, then the post would be edited to remove the offending material or the post in question to be deleted. If Penny was older, like at Macey's age or older, I would not question it. But you are using a child. And time and time again you have stated that she is 9 years old and has undergone a procedure to stay at 9 no matter how many birthdays she may have which continually makes her a child. Plus Penny was not a willing participant, it is something that happened to her and she accepted as "normal." Understand that difference.

There is no such thing as a victimless crime, or a victimized willing participant.
 
I understand that Human Nature is at play here, but there are also laws, rules and standards that we must bide too. As Hondo told me last night, he's not going to jail or have his site shut down because somebody posted up something that amounts to child porn. That warning not only extends to you, it also extends to me since we are the only 3 posting here.
 
Realism is in the RPG story is one thing. Situation such as Penny's have to be addressed but other characters' situations and appearances needs to be addressed as well. I do not care about unnatural flat chested women you and Arik have put up as characters, by law if it looks like a child, then it is a child.
 
We here police ourselves. If you think you need to edit or delete your post because of what it may look like, then good for you. I will only delete another person's if it crosses the line. Hondo will lock the thread and delete it if the line is crossed too often.

Quote from Fernando on Dec 24^th, 2016, 12:46pm:

I missed one of the points you made. I'll put a bra on Ariel.
 
Jeanette Isabelle

I don't know why you are bringing me into this. I wrote Hikaru's description in her profile. I left it at that until you brought her up in a discussion. I have more to say but that does not belong here. If you want to discuss this further, you can send me E-mail.