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Re: After Chaos
Reply #1740 - Dec 9th, 2016, 4:02pm
 
Quote from Fernando on Dec 9th, 2016, 12:17pm:
Continue town hopping and ignore the labs?

Raid a lab for a possible cure that may or may not exist, along with any other information they have?

Jeanette would need to discuss the labs with Fernando, Hondo and anyone else willing to go in. As a writer I'm for restoring Wesens back to human; rather have other mutants remain mutants. That or some mutants would remain mutants. I would like to keep the Haibane. Most Haibane are in Charlton anyhow so they are accepted where they live.
 
Quote from Fernando on Dec 9th, 2016, 12:17pm:
Go back to Ruth and Maribelle's homes and empty them out of all their valuable content? In the case of weapons, if they gather 100 guns and case loads of ammo for them, the guns and ammo can be sold in other towns. And who would this money go to?

In my previous post I presented my idea on how their possessions are transported to their new home assuming they do not return to their original home when it's all over.
 
Quote from Fernando on Dec 9th, 2016, 12:17pm:
Find out about Fight Town or skip it?

I have an idea for a character that lives in Fight Town.
 
Quote from Fernando on Dec 9th, 2016, 12:17pm:
Go see Karl, grease a few palms and get him the best care possible? Or wait until morning and bring him to camp and take care of him ourselves? Just because he injured should not excuse him from doing his guard duty responsibilities, though he should be limited in other tasks. Remember he is still an idiot, but is he still useful in other areas.

If she could get by with it, Jeanette would want to take care of Karl herself even while he's still in the third world hospital.
 
Quote from Fernando on Dec 9th, 2016, 12:17pm:
See what the medical center have to offer for Karl and others and trade with her?

Jeanette would not trade her best supplies; she would be willing to trade.
 
Quote from Fernando on Dec 9th, 2016, 12:17pm:
What about the Tractor Trailer and their group? And help looking for those they claim they are looking for? If those they are looking for can not be found, offer them sanctuary in Texas? Would they want it?

We can't spend too much time looking for people who may not be there. In a story post Wilma has some information on them. At this time I don't know how useful this information is. As for sanctuary in Charlton or Texas, yes. Wanting it is up to you.
 
Quote from Fernando on Dec 9th, 2016, 12:17pm:
And the treaty?  If a raid on the Lab Town is done, and is successful, will they come back and turn a Wessen back to a human, forcing the acceptance of wessens and mutants as humans?

Yes.
 
Quote from Fernando on Dec 9th, 2016, 12:17pm:
Going back a few steps, what about the Mooks that run wild on the highways? They too are mutants that are so far gone, they are literally reverted to an animal like state - try to cure them or incorporate them into human society?

We need to agree on what can be done for mutants before I can answer.
 
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Reply #1741 - Dec 9th, 2016, 9:55pm
 
Quote from Jeanette on Dec 9th, 2016, 2:58pm:
Though I did not include Canada, Mexico and beyond in the Charlton Railroad map, it's nevertheless limited in destinations even within the U.S. Even with the existence of the Charlton Railroad, it stands to reason there are other railroads as there is in the real world.

It stands to reason that the Charlton Railroad was also damaged in the earthquakes and tsunami. Except for the destinations that are now in the ocean, the Charlton Railroad has been repaired.

Quote from Fernando on Dec 9th, 2016, 11:26am:
As Is, in what is left of the USA it is very fragmented with few working parts connecting towns. A large fragment piece would go about 300 miles and connect 15 or so towns. And 30 miles away another 100 mile fragment piece connecting 12 towns can exist but both pieces are not connected because the rail between them is broken and no one has went out to fix it. This is one obstacle the Spirits need to find and solve to recreate a nation wide railroad. As simple as that may sound, they still need to deal with the politics of each settlement the trains go through.

If this is in reference to other railroads, remember that the reason the Charlton Railroad exists is because Fernando complained about the Texas Spirits fixing anything outside of Texas that's not theirs.

Quote from Fernando on Dec 9th, 2016, 11:26am:
Fixing track that is underwater requires underwater construction of a tunnel and replacement of the track that is there with new track because these tracks would be rusted. If anything, it is time consuming to do underwater construction but it is doable. The foundation of towers of the Brooklyn Bridge was built in this in this way - underwater inside a chamber during its construction.

I said "destinations that are currently underwater." The Charlton Railroad will not be going to any train station currently IN the Atlantic or Pacific Ocean. Maybe; only if all passengers and train operators have their scuba gear on.


Who then will be going on the raid in the fourth town?

Only Chihiro is able to find Baroness Louise. Actually I'm using a double meaning so to not reveal what is really happening though I included a number of clues in the story.


What about those who are born that way such as the snow queens?


If you have a different plan for Maribelle and others affected by the slavers, then so be it.

I did notice they were in the wine cellar; I thought it was said that all of the wine was taken.

Who said anything about transporting their stuff in any ground vehicle? Remember, the Texas Spirits will do what it takes to protect Jeanette. There's a cloaked space ship there with the party ready to either protect Jeanette or transport her out. Space ships also have a cargo bay. Would Maribelle say no to all of her treasures safely transported to her new home?

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System crash ate my post. Damn it!
 
I'll state the Maribelle answer now and the others later.
 
As stated, Maribelle is a power hungry little bitch who will be eying for any opportunity to rise up as a leader of the group. She does not respect authority figures unless she is the authority. She is so used to things given to her and she giving out the orders, it's not funny. This is why she loves Teri so much because the little wessen will do anything she tell her to do. This has to end. Karl was in a similar situation with Fernando and Hondo until Fernando sent him to play tag with Lucy the T-Rex. If there is a way the women have to deal with a disrespect Maribelle will dish out, I want to see it. As is Ruth and Val are the only ones putting her in her place; and Ariel is a excuse for her to get away from responsibility.

SPOILER:
If we stay a day or two in this town or end up in another town, somebody is going to find a couple of Girlie Magazines with one of them having Maribelle and Teri on the cover; where Teri will be tied up and naked and Maribelle in high heel thigh high black leather boots, black fish net stockings, garter belts, black silk panties and bar whipping Teri's tail with a rider's crop. This will be the talk of the camp, and one reason why Maribelle is known well in the town.

 
The wine cellar was raided, that is true. but a vineyard's wine cellar is divided up into 2 sections, the open are where wines up to 7 years are stored and this part was raided, and the vault where wines older than 10 years are stored under lock and key and usually behind a hidden wall, this is where Teri and Maribelle hid. Such vaults hold less than 50 bottles and in this case there are 30 bottles of wines over 20 years of age. For Mavis, it would be the nectar of the gods. To survive, Maribelle and Teri did drink a couple of bottles.
 
The spirits using their space ships is only a short cut which will deny interaction with others, and will be an opportunity for Maribelle to explore and try to exploit. Maribelle is not stupid, she is very cunning. One has to think 4 or 5 steps ahead of her like a chess computer with all the possible steps she could take and narrow down the moves as she takes them. Besides, she does not have a pace in Texas yet, and is only with Karl because he might have a place. Until then she will be in that little trailer. I have an idea for all their belongings. I just have to plan it out more thoroughly.
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Re: After Chaos
Reply #1742 - Dec 9th, 2016, 10:14pm
 
Quote from Jeanette on Dec 9th, 2016, 4:02pm:
Quote from Fernando on Dec 9th, 2016, 12:17pm:
Continue town hopping and ignore the labs?

Raid a lab for a possible cure that may or may not exist, along with any other information they have?

Jeanette would need to discuss the labs with Fernando, Hondo and anyone else willing to go in. As a writer I'm for restoring Wesens back to human; rather have other mutants remain mutants. That or some mutants would remain mutants. I would like to keep the Haibane. Most Haibane are in Charlton anyhow so they are accepted where they live.

Quote from Fernando on Dec 9th, 2016, 12:17pm:
Go back to Ruth and Maribelle's homes and empty them out of all their valuable content? In the case of weapons, if they gather 100 guns and case loads of ammo for them, the guns and ammo can be sold in other towns. And who would this money go to?

In my previous post I presented my idea on how their possessions are transported to their new home assuming they do not return to their original home when it's all over.

Quote from Fernando on Dec 9th, 2016, 12:17pm:
Find out about Fight Town or skip it?

I have an idea for a character that lives in Fight Town.

Quote from Fernando on Dec 9th, 2016, 12:17pm:
Go see Karl, grease a few palms and get him the best care possible? Or wait until morning and bring him to camp and take care of him ourselves? Just because he injured should not excuse him from doing his guard duty responsibilities, though he should be limited in other tasks. Remember he is still an idiot, but is he still useful in other areas.

If she could get by with it, Jeanette would want to take care of Karl herself even while he's still in the third world hospital.

Quote from Fernando on Dec 9th, 2016, 12:17pm:
See what the medical center have to offer for Karl and others and trade with her?

Jeanette would not trade her best supplies; she would be willing to trade.

Quote from Fernando on Dec 9th, 2016, 12:17pm:
What about the Tractor Trailer and their group? And help looking for those they claim they are looking for? If those they are looking for can not be found, offer them sanctuary in Texas? Would they want it?

We can't spend too much time looking for people who may not be there. In a story post Wilma has some information on them. At this time I don't know how useful this information is. As for sanctuary in Charlton or Texas, yes. Wanting it is up to you.

Quote from Fernando on Dec 9th, 2016, 12:17pm:
And the treaty?  If a raid on the Lab Town is done, and is successful, will they come back and turn a Wessen back to a human, forcing the acceptance of wessens and mutants as humans?

Yes.

Quote from Fernando on Dec 9th, 2016, 12:17pm:
Going back a few steps, what about the Mooks that run wild on the highways? They too are mutants that are so far gone, they are literally reverted to an animal like state - try to cure them or incorporate them into human society?

We need to agree on what can be done for mutants before I can answer.

Jeanette Isabelle

 
These questions I wanted you to think upon as you write out your posts. There will be some discussions as writers will need to barrow characters for various actions to be done with.
 
I created Maribelle to be the wrench in the works set to sabotage the group by her own doing and greed of power, not that she was sent to us to destroy us by somebody else. As a person, she is a wrecker, but she can be whipped into shape. If Fernando as too, he'll throw her on his lap, pulls down her panties and spank her ass like her parents should have because all they did was raise a spoiled brat that is now a spoiled young adult. So far she's gotten on Val's nerves and Ruth's nerves, and made Ariel look like a bad guy - in case you have not noticed. All she cares about is herself, and she needs to know that she is going to do hard work and rely on others because others are going to rely on her. The bond of Master/Slave she has with Teri must also end. In you past post using her, you did well, but I believe you could have pushed her further but did not know her enough to play her right. But since it was good, it remains without request for changing it.
 
Teri was created as Maribelle's crutch and excuse for things to get done through her. She is also an accident waiting to happen, because of her Pheromones and because she's an airhead. But she's willing to learn if she can be separated from Maribelle. Her Pheromones affects males, but it also affects females who are not used smelling  Sex Puppies's Pheromones. I'm not say that it will make the females horny, but there will be an affect on them. Maribelle is not affected because Teri was her toy since forever and has gotten used to them. But the others, its obvious what it will do with the males, if you need those nature where the males challenge each other for position. The females will be establishing a pecking order because of this. But to stop this from happening, Teri needs to shower a minimum of twice a day. If she can shave her fur, that would be helpful too, she is part sheep.
 
I'm not saying that I like your ideas or not, that is on you to implement. It is getting from this current town to the next town is what problem we need to deal with now. All I saying is that I like some of them, lets see where it goes from here.
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Reply #1743 - Dec 9th, 2016, 10:19pm
 
Quote from Fernando on Dec 9th, 2016, 9:55pm:
and Ariel is a excuse for her to get away from responsibility.

Ariel did what she thought is right with the "do you think you're better than the princess of Arendelle?" speech.
 
Maribelle may not have a place in Texas; that won't stop her from acquiring land.
 
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Reply #1744 - Dec 9th, 2016, 10:41pm
 
Quote from Jeanette on Dec 9th, 2016, 10:19pm:
Quote from Fernando on Dec 9th, 2016, 9:55pm:
and Ariel is a excuse for her to get away from responsibility.

Ariel did what she thought is right with the "do you think you're better than the princess of Arendelle?" speech.

Maribelle may not have a place in Texas; that won't stop her from acquiring land.

Jeanette Isabelle

 
I will answer it in Maribelle's terms of understanding, I think I mentioned this before...
Does she think she is better than the Prncess of Arendelle? She does. Why? Because Elsa has no political power in this area, while she has a lot of power as long as no one finds out about her family's demise. That is why she would think she is better than the Princess of Arendelle. For Elsa, that is only a title, she is not going to get any added benefits for being a princess and is only a title holder. Just like Fernando is a prince of Spain and the rightful heir to the throne, it is only a title that means nothing unless he is in Spain. Mariebelle has power in the area. How far it extends remains to be seen but it will extend to several towns.
 
Maribelle can walk to the hospital and demand better treatment for Karl but why would she, all he is to her is a means to an end.
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Reply #1745 - Dec 9th, 2016, 11:14pm
 
Quote from Fernando on Dec 9th, 2016, 10:14pm:
I created Maribelle to be the wrench in the works set to sabotage the group by her own doing and greed of power

The "house divided against its self" was doing a good job at that earlier in the story.
 
Quote from Fernando on Dec 9th, 2016, 10:14pm:
So far she's gotten on Val's nerves and Ruth's nerves, and made Ariel look like a bad guy - in case you have not noticed.

I don't see it. Valentine did what she could to make everything look bad with her "a portable makeup station does not belong here" rant. Ariel is not in sales as Valentine said; she does work in that industry.
 
There's a hand I overplayed that has cast Ariel in a negative light. The point was to show Maribelle that Ariel is speaking the truth.
 
Quote from Fernando on Dec 9th, 2016, 10:14pm:
I'm not saying that I like your ideas or not, that is on you to implement. It is getting from this current town to the next town is what problem we need to deal with now. All I saying is that I like some of them, lets see where it goes from here.

I wanted to do a trade anyhow to allow medical supplies to be spread further. Not knowing the situation, Jeanette would not think of trading medical supplies for Karl to get better treatment. Jeanette would have to learn from another character what the situation is like before she leaves for the medical center.
 
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Reply #1746 - Dec 10th, 2016, 1:14am
 
Quote from Jeanette on Dec 9th, 2016, 11:14pm:
Quote from Fernando on Dec 9th, 2016, 10:14pm:
I created Maribelle to be the wrench in the works set to sabotage the group by her own doing and greed of power

The "house divided against its self" was doing a good job at that earlier in the story.

Quote from Fernando on Dec 9th, 2016, 10:14pm:
So far she's gotten on Val's nerves and Ruth's nerves, and made Ariel look like a bad guy - in case you have not noticed.

I don't see it. Valentine did what she could to make everything look bad with her "a portable makeup station does not belong here" rant. Ariel is not in sales as Valentine said; she does work in that industry.

There's a hand I overplayed that has cast Ariel in a negative light. The point was to show Maribelle that Ariel is speaking the truth.

LOL... In my mind Maribelle was like "Oooo! A Make Up Kit! Lets go get Teri and make her up so I can trick the boys a that market!" Shs was not caring about what Ariel was saying except listening for Lets Do Make Up...
 
Maribelle was supposed to be at the table setting up for dinner, instead she put the dishes, and flatware on the table and left her responsibilities to check out the make up kit.
 
Val was angry at Ariel for being a distraction and an excuse for Maribelle to use. But she is not falling for Maribelle's excuses.
 
 
Quote from Jeanette on Dec 9th, 2016, 11:14pm:
Quote from Fernando on Dec 9th, 2016, 10:14pm:
I'm not saying that I like your ideas or not, that is on you to implement. It is getting from this current town to the next town is what problem we need to deal with now. All I saying is that I like some of them, lets see where it goes from here.

I wanted to do a trade anyhow to allow medical supplies to be spread further. Not knowing the situation, Jeanette would not think of trading medical supplies for Karl to get better treatment. Jeanette would have to learn from another character what the situation is like before she leaves for the medical center.

Jeanette Isabelle

 
Since this is a former and resettles military base, it would have a military base hospital, where the wards would have 20+ beds in a large room, and private examination room and some working equipment like Xray machines and basic hospital equipment and services. But for Karl and other wessens, they would be scattered bout in the open of the likes of an over crowded emergency ward where people are waiting for a bed. If Karl gets a bed, it would be in the hallway outside of the medical wards out in the open. He will have his IV and somebody will check up on him to make sure he's not dead, but except for his bandages, he will receive little care.
 
Chances are they are not going to be willing trade unless it is for something big like a dialysis machine or new surgical equipment, even after 20+ years, scalpels tend to wear down to their handles. Sterilizing agents is another as they are still using high temperature steam to clean items and alcohol to clean out wounds. They had UV Disinfecting stations but those died out years ago. They do have bleach and peroxide as well, and native americans provide plants for their medicines but that may not be true for other medical centers yet to be visited.  
 
Ace bandages will be a commodity for them as those they have would have the rubber in them broken down long ago. In Karl's case he would be wrapped up tightly in thick gauze.
 
This hospital would be more for treating wounds and injuries than diseases. They do not have the drugs to take care of diseases though they have somethings to work with from the native americans.
 
Karl is lucky to get an IV Bottle; bags are no longer used because they ran out years ago and went back to bottles which are refillable and sterilized through alcohol, bleach and steam.
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Reply #1747 - Dec 10th, 2016, 10:29am
 
Quote from Fernando on Dec 10th, 2016, 1:14am:
LOL... In my mind Maribelle was like "Oooo! A Make Up Kit! Lets go get Teri and make her up so I can trick the boys a that market!" Shs was not caring about what Ariel was saying except listening for Lets Do Make Up...

Maribelle was supposed to be at the table setting up for dinner, instead she put the dishes, and flatware on the table and left her responsibilities to check out the make up kit.

Val was angry at Ariel for being a distraction and an excuse for Maribelle to use. But she is not falling for Maribelle's excuses.

I know what Maribelle was doing. I was the one who wrote for her in that moment of the story. As Maribelle brings out the plates she sees Ariel's makeup station.
 
In response to Maribelle's question Ariel says, "Later. I need to put this up for now."
 
I have no idea why Valentine thought it was necessary to send out a search party right after Maribelle had been sent to take the plates to the table. Valentine is the bad guy in that scene, not Ariel.
 
There is no indication of this. If, for the sake of discussion, Valentine had gone looking Maribelle later, she would see that the portable makeup station put up just as Ariel said it would be.
 
Quote from Fernando on Dec 10th, 2016, 1:14am:
Chances are they are not going to be willing trade unless it is for something big like a dialysis machine or new surgical equipment, even after 20+ years, scalpels tend to wear down to their handles. Sterilizing agents is another as they are still using high temperature steam to clean items and alcohol to clean out wounds. They had UV Disinfecting stations but those died out years ago. They do have bleach and peroxide as well, and native americans provide plants for their medicines but that may not be true for other medical centers yet to be visited.

Ace bandages will be a commodity for them as those they have would have the rubber in them broken down long ago. In Karl's case he would be wrapped up tightly in thick gauze.

This hospital would be more for treating wounds and injuries than diseases. They do not have the drugs to take care of diseases though they have somethings to work with from the native americans.

This medical center is not worthy of such a trade and therefore Jeanette needs to wait and trade somewhere else?
 
Collectively Jeanette has five scalpel blades. She needs one . . . maybe. There are other items Jeanette has better suited for a medical facility, not emergency medicine.
 
Should I put together a list I'm considering for a trade and let you decide?
 
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Reply #1748 - Dec 10th, 2016, 11:59am
 
Quote from Jeanette on Dec 10th, 2016, 10:29am:
Quote from Fernando on Dec 10th, 2016, 1:14am:
LOL... In my mind Maribelle was like "Oooo! A Make Up Kit! Lets go get Teri and make her up so I can trick the boys a that market!" Shs was not caring about what Ariel was saying except listening for Lets Do Make Up...

Maribelle was supposed to be at the table setting up for dinner, instead she put the dishes, and flatware on the table and left her responsibilities to check out the make up kit.

Val was angry at Ariel for being a distraction and an excuse for Maribelle to use. But she is not falling for Maribelle's excuses.

I know what Maribelle was doing. I was the one who wrote for her in that moment of the story. As Maribelle brings out the plates she sees Ariel's makeup station.

In response to Maribelle's question Ariel says, "Later. I need to put this up for now."

I have no idea why Valentine thought it was necessary to send out a search party right after Maribelle had been sent to take the plates to the table. Valentine is the bad guy in that scene, not Ariel.

There is no indication of this. If, for the sake of discussion, Valentine had gone looking Maribelle later, she would see that the portable makeup station put up just as Ariel said it would be.

 
It gets confusing to the end, perhaps a word is missing; for the makeup station was already put up which is why Maribelle is eying it. Why would it be put up again?
 
Val is not the bad guy here, neither is Ariel, Maribelle is for ignoring her responsibilities of setting up the table to check out somebody else's makeup kit because she was refused to take hers.
 
Val, Hondo, Fernando, Ruth and the other adults are in Survival Mode (SM) in this "Shit Hits The Fan Scenerio" (SHTF), make up is at the very bottom of the list of priorities in this SM World. If (IF!!) Fernando was there, he would have taken that make up kit and launched it into orbit and let the spirits wonder what is that metal and cardboard box is and why is it heading at them at Mach 2. In their collective mind, the only reason why one would have such a make up kit is because they are an actor in a theater troop or they have to beautify themselves for another day of selling their bodies to the streets - "If you're going to be a whore then be the prettiest whore out there." As stated by Val "We are a rescue group, not a traveling fashion show."
 
As reader and a writer, I do not know why Ariel is out there with such a make up kit. Nor do I care. She was brought in by the writer for a reason yet to be revealed and the interaction with the group again is to be determined. Yes, there are beauty saloons in various towns like this one, but it is like a barber shop - it is more like a hang out and gossip place while one gets their hair done. They are there as a permanent fixture of the town, and not as a mobile station.
 
But her being there reciting journal is nothing but trouble for the group. Fernando could go into the future and look at the past and see what done and why but prefers not too because he does not want to second guess events and try to move them into his favor when ever possible. Nor is he going to try to alter the past to change the present. That is what the power of the journal gives. A Prime example of this is Back to the Future II where Biff gets the encyclopedia of sports history and makes himself rich betting on sports games, destroying the rest of the future's history for everyone else, including killing Marty's father, marrying his mother and putting Doc Brown in an insane asylum to make sure they would never be allowed to interfere and correct the future. That is what Fernando, Hondo and Val is trying to prevent and in their opinion that and any other journal found are to be destroyed.
 
 
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Chances are they are not going to be willing trade unless it is for something big like a dialysis machine or new surgical equipment, even after 20+ years, scalpels tend to wear down to their handles. Sterilizing agents is another as they are still using high temperature steam to clean items and alcohol to clean out wounds. They had UV Disinfecting stations but those died out years ago. They do have bleach and peroxide as well, and native americans provide plants for their medicines but that may not be true for other medical centers yet to be visited.

Ace bandages will be a commodity for them as those they have would have the rubber in them broken down long ago. In Karl's case he would be wrapped up tightly in thick gauze.

This hospital would be more for treating wounds and injuries than diseases. They do not have the drugs to take care of diseases though they have somethings to work with from the native americans.

This medical center is not worthy of such a trade and therefore Jeanette needs to wait and trade somewhere else?

Collectively Jeanette has five scalpel blades. She needs one . . . maybe. There are other items Jeanette has better suited for a medical facility, not emergency medicine.

Should I put together a list I'm considering for a trade and let you decide?

Jeanette Isabelle

 
If you want to put together a list, that is on you. Jeanette should not be trading her tools that she has a few of, but of the spirits in Israel or Japan are making them she could make a deal where they can sell/trade items like scalpels to the hospital. Drugs is another item as stated. Like much of the infrastructures, Pharmaceutical companies have been rendered to just a couple of pill manufacturers and what they produce is limited from what they used to before. Places like Lab Town would be more creative and able to manufacture drugs but why should they when they are doing more important research for themselves to exploit.  
 
I will dare throw in, many of the staff there are immortals, but not by mutation but by cloning. They have cloned themselves again and again and when the old body is about to die, the head/brain is transferred to a new cloned body. To make clones, they need female hosts to grow the embryos until birth and then the babies are put into vats and grown to adult size in a couple of years. Where they got this technology, no doubt it is alien technology as some aliens are rumored to do the same thing. Where they get the female hosts? Same place where they get humans for their wessen creations. The female does not need to be conscious during this phase, in fact the females are in a coma for 9 months for the duration of the pregnancy. If you think about it - that's evil.
 
This is why it is dangerous to send anyone to raid the town, most of the group is female. Any female sent, regardless of age, who is caught will be turned into a baby making chamber - the younger the better since they would be able to get more babies out of her. I doubt Jeanette would want to be pregnant by artificial means and unconscious for the duration thereof. If you think that is bad for Jeanette, imagine how it will be for Chihiro, Danielle, Macey or Zoey.
 
These labs would have the most powerful drugs available anywhere, the best hospital tools anywhere but they are willing to share or sell their technologies nor are they willing to help others brought to them. What other technologies they may have is unknown.
 
But for the hospitals, it depends on what they have and what they need. They have a lot in terms of what little they got but things like a simple scalpel are low in supplies and have to supplement with other items. Fernando has an old civil war field surgeon's kit where the scalpels are various knives that need to be sharpened before every surgery to get the cleanest cut. If the spirits can duplicate that for them it would be a major plus for future negotiations.
1) http://www.medicalantiques.com/civilwar/Surgery_set_images/Hernstein_CW_set/Hern stein%20photos/latch%20view%20of%20top.JPG  &
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Re: After Chaos
Reply #1749 - Dec 10th, 2016, 12:27pm
 
Quote from Jeanette on Dec 9th, 2016, 10:19pm:
Quote from Fernando on Dec 9th, 2016, 9:55pm:
and Ariel is a excuse for her to get away from responsibility.

Ariel did what she thought is right with the "do you think you're better than the princess of Arendelle?" speech.

Maribelle may not have a place in Texas; that won't stop her from acquiring land.

Jeanette Isabelle

 
Maribelle getting land is not an issue. She will get what she wants when the opportunity arises, including land.
 
Ariel's question of Maribelle thinking whether she is better than Princess Elsa is. Again, the answer is yes because Maribelle has political power in the region, Elsa does not. Maribelle can go to the butcher and get a hunted kill butchered and processed for her for free, where Elsa can not and would have to make a deal for it. Maribelle is an adult, though a young one, Elsa is a child. Maribelle can get things on credit, Elsa will need to barter and probably be worst off in the deal. It is not to say that Elsa does not have any worth in the party because she does. But compared to Maribelle, her sphere of influence only extends to those around her within the rescue party.
 
Taking it further, if the Ice Queen were to show up and help Elsa, she too would not have political power in this region. In short, people do not care who she is or that she can freeze the land for 100 years. The point is she has done little for the political establishment, community defense or economic improvement of the area. So why should anyone listen to her? Maribelle and her family has done a lot for the area and help establish it as the community it is and continued to do so until The Purge. In helping spread the market to other towns with the convoys year before to establish trade is what she and her family are known for. This makes them very powerful. And in her mind, better than a snowball chucking loli.
 
Now, when Maribelle is outside of this realms where people know of her and her family, then she will have no power. When they reach Charlton Tx, where Elsa is known and respected, then Elsa will have the upper hand over Maribelle's in this.
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