Hondo's Cabin - After Chaos

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Re: After Chaos
Reply #1680 - Nov 27^th, 2016, 11:07am

Quote from Jeanette on Nov 27^th, 2016, 8:00am:

Quote from Fernando on Nov 26^th, 2016, 10:32pm:

Any wrecks on the side of the road would have been minded for their parts and metal by this group while they wait fr their 'leaders' to return with help.

Maybe from here on any abandoned vehicle with mechanical problems can be fixed. We now have plenty of drivers so the need for a driver is no longer a problem. More money can be made from selling a working vehicle than mining it. If a vehicle is too badly damaged from a wreck, then it can be mined.

Jeanette Isabelle

The problem here is that unless the vehicle was abandoned because of mechanical issue most will be wrecked. A wrecked vehicle can be mechanically sound and running but it's body and/or frame can be bent out of shape; like the roof collapsed into the passenger section during a roll over accident. If you pull up the roof to its height and restore the support pillars, then you have a restored vehicle. The same with fenders, doors, and the frame. That is not hard to do with the Midas touch. And many people (especially in this time, like today in our time) ride in vehicles with battle scars all over it. So as long as it can roll in a straight line under its own power, people will drive it even after the doors fall off.

A bigger problem is looting of the wrecked/abandoned vehicle. the next group that sees a "new" wreck on the road will say, "Hey, its tires are good! Lets take'm!" and they will, even if they do not fit their vehicle, they can use it for trade for other things. Same with lights, engine/parts, doors, seats, interior parts, intact windows, oil from the engine, fuel from the tank, radio, batteries and the wiring harness. If they got the tools, they'll take other parts in whole as well, like brakes, engine/transmission, suspension, and so on. So unless that vehicle was just placed there, people are going to take parts from it.

In the first battle of the slavers when Fernando and Hondo took the girls to their house, Fernando blew up a couple of Slaver's vehicles with a lucky shot t the gas tank. Though burnt, these vehicles are recoverable, and if you can tow one into town, they can fetch a good price as most of the vehicle is rebuildable from there. Replace the parts that were burned, clean up the rest of it and you can have a "new vehicle."

A big problem is if you find a vehicle wrecked or abandoned, and there is a body (or bodies) inside. Some people will respect this as a burial site. Others wont care and take what they find. The car might be recoverable as a whole but there is a sanctity of resting in peace that needs to be resepcted. One can do the honorable thing and bury the bodies and put a grave marker where they lay, and report it to the next town, but no one want to get involved with that and be possibly charged with a possible crime. Especially if the recovered vehicle brought into town has bullet holes on its side.

I can see the Spirit's Midas' touch fixing a bad wreck if it is still complete in its parts. But it can not fix things that are missing, so a wreck that has been mined for its parts is not fixable even in the slightest bit. If a wreck is 99% complete, only missing 1 wheel, then only that 99% can be fixed, its missing wheel can not be fixed because it is not there. It needs to be replaced. Replacing missing parts is something Midas Touch can not do.

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Quote from Fernando on Nov 26^th, 2016, 10:44pm:

If there is a delay, that is up to you guys to decide. It means one more day, and Val, Jeanette and Ruth will be with the girls and only Karl will be there. Jason may help out.

But that means the party that is going need to have a meal-on-the-go.

I vote for a delay.

Jeanette Isabelle

You and Hondo makes two. So I'll write it up as a decision to go.

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Re: After Chaos
Reply #1681 - Nov 27^th, 2016, 3:56pm

Look at the images here. The rougher looking rigs would be the norm in these times. https://www.google.com/search?q=redneck+vehicles&client=ms-android-att-us&am p;prmd=isvn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjOqfmc6cnQAhWC6oMKHa5jC60Q_AUIBygB&biw=360&bih=518

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Well the cowboy, like the red man, you had to leave your land
You can't raise your stock and plant your crop in the gumbo and the sand
Greed disguised as progress has put us to the test
They won't be glad until we're gone from our home out in the west
It's sad to see those good old days replaced with greed and doubt
Soon we'll leave the country, the campfire has gone out
Bid 'em all adieu, you can't turn the world about
The cowboy left the country, the campfire has gone out

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Re: After Chaos
Reply #1682 - Nov 27^th, 2016, 4:00pm

And here, look at the repair job specifically. http://www.teamjimmyjoe.com/2013/03/redneck-vehicles-24-of-the-best-bad/

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Well the cowboy, like the red man, you had to leave your land
You can't raise your stock and plant your crop in the gumbo and the sand
Greed disguised as progress has put us to the test
They won't be glad until we're gone from our home out in the west
It's sad to see those good old days replaced with greed and doubt
Soon we'll leave the country, the campfire has gone out
Bid 'em all adieu, you can't turn the world about
The cowboy left the country, the campfire has gone out

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Re: After Chaos
Reply #1683 - Nov 27^th, 2016, 4:03pm

And here 20 - 26 and 30, especially, think ya get the idea with these.

http://www.fullredneck.com/funny-redneck-cars/

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Well the cowboy, like the red man, you had to leave your land
You can't raise your stock and plant your crop in the gumbo and the sand
Greed disguised as progress has put us to the test
They won't be glad until we're gone from our home out in the west
It's sad to see those good old days replaced with greed and doubt
Soon we'll leave the country, the campfire has gone out
Bid 'em all adieu, you can't turn the world about
The cowboy left the country, the campfire has gone out

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Jeanette Experianced Posts: 1154	Re: After Chaos Reply #1684 - Nov 28^th, 2016, 10:40am Note: When going after the truck, would a medical kit be needed? Jeanette Isabelle
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Fernando YaBB Administrator NY City Posts: 2380 Gender:	Re: After Chaos Reply #1685 - Nov 28^th, 2016, 11:49am Note: Probably not. And as prepared as these people are, they would have their own, no matter how primitive it might be to ours.
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Jeanette Experianced Posts: 1154	Re: After Chaos Reply #1686 - Nov 28^th, 2016, 1:00pm Note: Assuming everything this couple is saying is true, they are rescuing slaves and giving them a life, and if at some point they and the party need to part ways so that they can continue their work, Jeanette should build a kit for them using some of the supplies she has. Jeanette Isabelle
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Re: After Chaos
Reply #1687 - Nov 29^th, 2016, 12:46am

Note: Naw...

I say that because, who knows who long they have been doing this for, and if they have been doing this for years, then they got what they need and if they don't, would know where to get it. From the looks of the truck's filters, they have been doing this for a very long time. I would not be surprised if this is the second generation of their family doing this kind of work.

In the realm of Law Enforcement, you have your military, police, sheriffs, deputies, marshals, rangers, private investigators, bounty hunters and "rescuers." The Bounty Hunters are the worst as they tend to go after someone who is wanted dead or alive and bring them in as a sniveling bloodied pulp emotional wreck of a person.

But the Rescuers can be just as bad if not worst. Names like "The Equalizer" comes into play here. People tend to hire a "Rescuer" when they think their friend or loved one is taken away by force and know where they are but can't do nothing about it. So they tend to go in, and kill everyone to rescue that one person. For right or for wrong, this tends to get the person being rescued hurt as well in many cases. If they can stealthily remove a person from a situation then they will. But in other cases it is them meeting the person in need in person and making arrangements for the rescue to happen. Like a young girl in a whore house or slave situation wanting freedom and a way out. Even though it is planned, such plans do go awry.

And unless arrangements are made, rescues are not cheap. In the latter one, they will tell the one wanting to be rescued "What is in it for me? What can you pay?" For the former, they will say, "[give price] plus expenses, 50% down to start, 50% when we return with your loved one."

These miners fit into this "Rescuers" category. Hell. The way this RPG has been going, we are all heading into this direction but they are an extreme of that we do. We don't charge, they do.

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In thinking about it, look at Chip & Dale Rescue Rangers. They do exactly that, though in their furry world, there is little pay for doing it.

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Re: After Chaos
Reply #1688 - Nov 29^th, 2016, 1:37am

This is the Miner's truck (outside set up) in question.

- The first trailer is where the people live and sleep in.

- - Each floor is about 8ft high.

- - The top part raises 5 more feet fit the bedroom area of 50 "Battleship" style bunks. When lowered (like it is now, and when moving on the road), 3ft of the second floor sticks out from the top of the first. Including the wheels, this makes this trailer 12ft tall, just enough to clear most bridges and tunnels.

- - Current configuration with the top lowered, the floor folds up into a "V" like rafters in the attic. This allows the people to sit down in seats in the middle of the trailer when on the move.

- - The Side walls expand out 3ft on both sides to increase the space in the lower area. There is a spiral staircase that connects the floors.

- - It has its own generator, heat and water storage tanks and filtration system. Main food and food with short shelf life is stored here for immediate cooking. Cleaning, washing and toilet facilities are also here.

- The Rear Trailer is the factory.

- - Materials mined are processed and stored until they are sold. It is also their Camper's garage and long-term food and supply storage. Weapons and ammo not in use are stored there too.

- - In case of emergency each trailer has a trap door to go from trailer to the other, like getting weapons in an attack without being seen.

- - It is its own generator, heat and water storage tanks and filtration system

The vehicle can go up to 120MPH but it takes a long time to accelerate. It has 4 - 100 gallon fuel tanks, covered in a shroud. Range if all 4 tanks are full is over 2,000 miles; about 500 miles per tank. It has a 10-speed gear gear plus 3 reverse gears.

- The Tractor (Truck)

- - Has its own sleeper section with one large bed below and one "Battleship style" bunk over it. It has storage for personal things but no cooking/cleaning/toilet facilities. This area can sit 5 people comfortably. There are 2 floor to roof storage closet for personal items and small firearms.

- - It has 1 driver's seat and one "shotgun & navigator" seat.

- - It has a Cobra 148GTL CB.

- - It does have its own heater and battery electrical which is charged up by the engine when running.

- - (Not seen) There is a crawl docking tube from the sleeping cabin to the first trailer, mostly used to crawl through when parked and the top floor raised. It is also used to talk to others when on the move and send small items like food to the driving staff.

In case of weather emergency, they can hold out for 6 weeks with the supplies they have (if they have 50 people to feed; currently they have 25)
{Their food reserves are basically these three:
http://www.nitro-pak.com/food-reserves/supply-size/1-year-food-supply/quik-and-e z-family-dinner-entree-reserve
http://www.nitro-pak.com/food-reserves/supply-size/1-year-food-supply/platinum-r eserve-kit
http://www.nitro-pak.com/food-reserves/supply-size/1-year-food-supply/mountain-h ouse-foods-year-s-supply-entree-s

They do have dried meats and powdered milk and eggs in this collection but if they want fresh food [fresh meat, eggs, milk and bread} they need to buy it, which they do.

Plus various AC/TH based Medical supplies from here. So yeah, they stitch up their own when needed.
http://www.nitro-pak.com/first-aid }

(The original model I got it from, so you can see the difference: http://encoreexpress.correspondnow.com/_assets/images/hero/hero2.jpg )

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Re: After Chaos
Reply #1689 - Nov 29^th, 2016, 8:08am

Note: Okay. I was looking for an opportunity like this. Jeanette is one person with three medical kits. Therefore she can only treat so many people. If Jeanette were to trade or donate medical supplies to someone who can put them to use, more people can be treated.

In the latest change in the time line more first aid supplies are made. This was to address an issue Fernando and Jeanette had. It's not enough to build a complete medical kit; what is made can resupply commonly used items. I don't have a set-in-stone list; my idea is most items in Jeanette's Chinook medical kit can be refilled.

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