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Reply #1670 - Nov 26th, 2016, 5:59pm
 
Note: I'd say that depends on where you want to go with these rescuers. What part do you want them to play in the story? If you want them in the story, have the twenty-four hour period played out.
 
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Reply #1671 - Nov 26th, 2016, 7:16pm
 
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If Fernando is going to invest time and effort in saving someone, they are going to be useful to some limited extent.
 
But the distance posses a problem. And what they are doing in going and rescuing people, why and what is the ramifications. If they have a trailer that opens up to basically a small house, the people they save can sit in the trailer while on the move but it would be cramped. And would anyone be following them and why? So one step at a time. As Hondo "stated" in my second to last post "If it's helpin' , people, we help."
 
Being a rescuer means that there will be some people who deem your work as getting in their way. In their case, that is why some rescuers were killed and others kidnapped and turned into slaves. So this is an area where Fernando is going to tread lightly. If they want to come to Texas that is on them.  If they want to follow part way, that is also on them. But they should not be left alone stuck on the road.
 
Hondo's willing to help, Moro is willing to help. The problem is the time involved to cover the distance. And Fernando does not want to take up all this time not without some verification from Jeanette and how. Teleporting them will save 20 hours of travel.
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Reply #1672 - Nov 26th, 2016, 8:04pm
 
Note: Let me ask you, the writer. Do you want these rescuers and the people they rescue a part of the party even if it's only part of the way? If you're asking for my vote, I'll say yes.
 
If you want these people apart of the party and if the problem with the truck can be fixed with the Midas touch (not all problems can be fixed that way), the delay can be cut in half. By that I mean people are transported to the truck, the truck is quickly fixed and it's driven to town.
 
Though they prefer not to, the Texas Spirits are able to transport the truck and trailer and they will do so if needed.
 
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Reply #1673 - Nov 26th, 2016, 8:26pm
 
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Before realizing the mistake in distance, which only adds to the story, this is "my fix' to that. Fernando and Hondo drives Karl's truck to about a mile out of town and teleports to a mile from the tractor trailer camper. Thing is who teleports them - Fernando or the spirits? Same thing with the return trip.
 
The good thing is these people are stocked up in supplies and other needs. They are "preppers" and are ready for the long haul. So they would not be leaching from the group.
 
And the repair is simple. Under each trailer is a fuel/water separator, which if is not purged of the water it removes from the fuel, fouls up the rest of the engine and kills it. So the repair for "bad fuel" is to purge the filter, and flush out the fuel in the engine, then prime up the engine with fresh fuel and run it. That is about a 2 hour job in RL. They can still use the bad fuel in the tanks but they must purge the filters at every town stop or risk breaking down on the road again.
 
They are running on Bio Diesel, which is basically Veggie Oil. And most towns have Bio Diesel as a fuel option.
 
If its something else, then the Midas touch can help.
 
As a writer, I want to bring in the group before this mistake came up in my realization. But I stated the fix. With the group, their leaders (Wilma, Jason, Karol and Roze) can help deal with issues like Ms Maribelle not deciding to work, and have more settlement/town info than Karl or Maribelle have as they have been all over the place.
 
But they are miners, so every junk help we might pass by they would want to stop and mine for items they will process and sell in town. That can be good and bad for the rest of the group but it teaches self efficiency.
 
I'm going to write this up and send you a copy to look at and edit before I post it. I will have to do some dialog and action for Moro and the spirits, so that you need to verify and rewrite as needed.
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Reply #1674 - Nov 26th, 2016, 9:36pm
 
Note: If the Texas Spirits transport the SUV, they will not wait until it has driven a mile. The SUV will be transported from town to the tractor-trailer. Reminder, because the Texas Spirits' technology is different, there will be no flash of light when transporting.
 
One idea I have considered a while is Moro fixing vehicles with mechanical problems that are abandoned by the side of the road. Moro is not a body shop so she can't fix vehicles damaged by a wreck, depending on what and how damaged it is; even then it can be a running wrecked vehicle. Problems include getting fuel to the vehicle if it's out of fuel, who will be driving it and what will the party be doing with it?
 
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Reply #1675 - Nov 26th, 2016, 10:25pm
 
Can we catch up with the convoy? Or maybe the celebration delays the convoy by a day?  I hate to use pave ships or telportaion.   Only other thing I can think of is an air ship.  I have been waiting to use one as I have a character in mind for it,  not that he haste come in now,  but maybe the slavers old airship can give us a lift there and back.  Should be big enough to maybe even haul the suv.   It's an idea anyway
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Well the cowboy, like the red man, you had to leave your land
You can't raise your stock and plant your crop in the gumbo and the sand
Greed disguised as progress has put us to the test
They won't be glad until we're gone from our home out in the west
It's sad to see those good old days replaced with greed and doubt
Soon we'll leave the country, the campfire has gone out
Bid 'em all adieu, you can't turn the world about
The cowboy left the country, the campfire has gone out
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Reply #1676 - Nov 26th, 2016, 10:32pm
 
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In my mind, the tractor and trailer is not wrecked. It has about 25 people in it.
 
The symptoms of its breakdown is they were drinking and the engine was running rough and when they pulled over, the engine went "CLUNK!: and died. That means one of two things - 1) Bad fuel or 2) Engine seize. Or three - both.
 
Engine seize can be fixed with the midas touch. Bad fuel needs to be flushed out and drained. Even though the fuel in the tanks maybe bad, it can be used as the fuel/water separator will do its thing now that it is drained. This device on all diesel vehicles, lasts about 10,000 miles and need to drained at that time. It is this job that needs the most work as the stuff in the engine needs to be drained. This system runs on a vacuum in separating water from fuel and the water is put in a small tank. When that tank fills it needs to be drained out or it floods the engine with fuel and water mix and shuts down combustion. So at this point the tank and engine fuel pipes needs to be drained. The job is simple but takes time to do.
 
Fuel/Water Separator (they come in many shaps and sizes):

 
Drain valve, to remove the water it catches - every 10K miles)

 
The teleportation is to be done where it wont be witnessed by others. Even if the spirits use a different technique, witnesses will see a truck disappear and then reappear with a tractor trailer. That is why Fernando wants to drive out of town where this action wont be seen. Also on the other end, seeing that they appear a mile away, they can survey the scene as they approach the tractor and get ready to work. In short Fernando does not want any witnesses who can connect them to any spirits - good or bad. But those riding with us will know because it is only fair for them to know. Also, in driving the tractor trailer that distance will test the repair and see if more is needed. When they drive into town, no one will be wiser as to what happened. All they see is Karl's SUV leading a tractor trailer into the parking lot.
 
Any wrecks on the side of the road would have been minded for their parts and metal by this group while they wait for their 'leaders' to return with help.
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Reply #1677 - Nov 26th, 2016, 10:44pm
 
If there is a delay, that is up to you guys to decide. It means one more day, and Val, Jeanette and Ruth will be with the girls and only Karl will be there. Jason may help out.
 
But that means the party that is going need to have a meal-on-the-go.
 
Another option is for the group to leave with the convoy while the others drive to the rescue. But that would leave Karl and trailer with girls and Fernando's Electric camper and Val's smaller truck behind with Jason.  And we would need to agree on a meeting place, most likely the second town.
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Reply #1678 - Nov 27th, 2016, 8:00am
 
Quote from Fernando on Nov 26th, 2016, 10:32pm:
In my mind, the tractor and trailer is not wrecked. It has about 25 people in it.

I was not suggesting that the truck is wrecked.
 
Quote from Fernando on Nov 26th, 2016, 10:32pm:
Any wrecks on the side of the road would have been minded for their parts and metal by this group while they wait for their 'leaders' to return with help.

Maybe from here on any abandoned vehicle with mechanical problems can be fixed. We now have plenty of drivers so the need for a driver is no longer a problem. More money can be made from selling a working vehicle than mining it. If a vehicle is too badly damaged from a wreck, then it can be mined.
 
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Reply #1679 - Nov 27th, 2016, 8:04am
 
Quote from Fernando on Nov 26th, 2016, 10:44pm:
If there is a delay, that is up to you guys to decide. It means one more day, and Val, Jeanette and Ruth will be with the girls and only Karl will be there. Jason may help out.

But that means the party that is going need to have a meal-on-the-go.

I vote for a delay.
 
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