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Re: After Chaos
Reply #1610 - Nov 13th, 2016, 10:52pm
 
Quote from Fernando on Nov 13th, 2016, 5:09pm:
He parks the SUV where it was parked with space to accommodate the trailer. He then tells Hondo, “Enjoy the cake.”

“Eh?” Hondo replies.

“Those boxes. Enjoy the cake. The middle one is yours. One on the left is mine and the last on the right is Jeanette’s. We all adopted girls, so, no matter how much we feel about what we seen, they are our girls. So hide that sour puss face and enjoy the cake. I need a time out myself.” Fernando says to him.

Hondo nods at Fernando before he steps out the SUV and walks over to the table Fernando had set up.

Girls, Val, Fernando says it’s time to open the middle box.” Hondo says.

He opens the body finding a small three layer cake inside with white icing with blue bunting and pink florets, with “Happy Pairing Hondo/Valentine and Tonya/Zoe.” Hondo looks at it before letting out a sigh.

“Something wrong?” Val asks.

“Nothing’s wrong. It’s too good to eat.” Hondo says.

“Happy Pairing?” Val asks as she and the girls look at it.

“Well, they were not born to us but they were paired to us through adoption.” Hondo guess is correct.

“This is really... nice...” Tonya says as she looks down at the cake.

“There’s juice and tea to drink as well.” Fernando says as he walks to the table. He puts his arm around Macey and takes her the box on the left and opens it. Like the cake for Hondo and his girls, it was a three layer cake inside with white icing with blue bunting and pink florets, with “Happy Pairing Fernando and Macey.” He tells them, “I do not know what flavors they are in but I asked for a non-strawberry filling. Anybody knows where Jeanette and Penny are?”

“Haven’t seen them all day.” Val points out.

“Well, that’s their cake.” Fernando points to the unopened box, “I was hoping they would be here but they are not. So, we can start without them, Happy Pairing day everybody!”

"We're here." Jeanette, in a pioneer dress, approaches with Penny. "In addition to oversleeping, we have been busy getting everything reorganized and straightening the place up." Jeanette goes to the cake box and opens it. "Thank you, Fernando. This is a lot of cake for such a small party." Jeanette steps aside, allowing Penny to see. Jeanette continues. "I'll just have a small piece with tea."
 
Quote from Fernando on Nov 13th, 2016, 5:09pm:
Fernando walks over to the front of Karl’s SUV and opens the hood. Nothing exciting in there, just a basic V8 engine. Fernando pulls out the dip stick and look at its oil. It was black but still translucent and smelled like oil should. Taking his handkerchief, he wipes down dipstick clean and puts it back into the engine and pulls it out. The level of oil was a bit on the low side but not below its ‘need oil’ mark.’

“This should be fine for the next couple hundred miles.” Fernando says.

Hondo comes out from the driver’s seat, “According to the gauges, it has a 1/2 tank of gas. And battery’s full.”

“Alright. Turn it on. Give it a minute to warm up and then turn on all the lights.” Fernando says.

Hondo does as he says, turning on the lights once the engine idles down. Fernando goes about and inspects all the lights that are turned on. They seem to be bright but looks can be deceiving. Hondo steps out of the SUV and listens to the engine, not hearing anything out of the ordinary. Fernando reaches into the engine bay and grabs battery positive wire, pulling it off the battery. The engine seems to run rough and slow down but picks up speed as Fernando puts the battery cable back on the battery. He pulls it off again, and again the engine runs rough and slow. He then shorts the battery terminal against one of the engine’s frame, making it kick up and then shut off suddenly.

“Looks like a bad alternator.” Hondo says.

“Check the wiring and connections. Fernando says as he hands Hondo his leatherman tool. As Hondo checks the alternator connections, Fernando grabs onto each tire and pulls on them then and rocks to check of their bearing are going. Those seem to be fine. He then unclamps the C-Ball clamp the trailer is connected too and lists the trailer off the hitch, rolling it back a bit, setting down the trailer’s tongue leg down before heading back to Hondo. “Think she will last the trip.”

“Treat her right, and she will last a long time. There was crud on the alternator’s post so I cleaned it up, it should be running fine.” Hondo says.

A crow, that was watching, flies down and lands on the alternator. The alternator "tells" the Spirit what is wrong. The Spirit taps its beak on one side of the alternator, turns around and taps on the other side. As the Spirit is doing this sounds, like that of metal parts moving, are heard.
 
The Spirit walks around on the alternator a bit more and caws. "The alternator is mechanically sound."
 
Note: I will write more tomorrow.
 
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Reply #1611 - Nov 13th, 2016, 11:43pm
 
Note: Nice catching up.
 
A 10in cake is e smallest cake I can find in NYC outside of a cup cake. And its Sugar/Egg/Flavoring type frosting like a meringue but its very smooth and sugary. The other option would have been (YUCK!) Marzipan. Marzipan makes the cake dry to the bite, while frosting keeps it moist. Only difference is that a Marzipan cake looks better and last longer on the shelf than a frosting cake. The cake itself is 3 layers with fruit filling between the layers, about 7in high. Its for everyone, though it celebrates the union of parent and child.
 
And thanks for the crow fixing the alternator.
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Reply #1612 - Nov 14th, 2016, 12:59am
 
Sorry I'm behind.  Work 7 off 3 days so working now and just got off work.  5 he's sleep then at it again.  Will try to finish my post soon.
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Well the cowboy, like the red man, you had to leave your land
You can't raise your stock and plant your crop in the gumbo and the sand
Greed disguised as progress has put us to the test
They won't be glad until we're gone from our home out in the west
It's sad to see those good old days replaced with greed and doubt
Soon we'll leave the country, the campfire has gone out
Bid 'em all adieu, you can't turn the world about
The cowboy left the country, the campfire has gone out
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Reply #1613 - Nov 14th, 2016, 8:39am
 
Quote from Fernando on Nov 13th, 2016, 9:13pm:
Looks have nothing to do with being a mom. Nada. Zelch. Null Set.

"I need to look like a mom" is one way to put it. Meaning Jeanette needs to look like an adult, not a preteen.
 
Quote from Fernando on Nov 13th, 2016, 9:13pm:
Jeanette needs to think of Penny first before she thinks of anyone else, especially herself because the child comes first. If Jeanette goes out to whore herself to support herself and Penny and only gets a dollar - 75 cents goes to Penny first and Jeanette takes the rest.

My RL experiences with my girls holds this to be true. When I needed underwear and had $10 left from my job's pay, I had to get them their underwear first. If I had $5 and we were hungry, that $5 went into a meal that I could divide up among them and I starved that night. Everything I had to get and do for myself, I had to make sure that they were taken cared of first. Jeanette is barely showing this. Barely.

There hasn't been any situation in which Jeanette had to sacrifice for her daughter. The exception to that is Jeanette cannot be physically altered to look like a preteen, which is what she really wants. Jeanette will continue to look like an adult.
 
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On top of that, age regression again - ? Really. If a stranger sees her and Penny they are either going to think Penny is her younger sister or Jeanette was pregnant at 10. Especially when Penny calls Jeanette "Mom" in public. What image is she trying to project? She should not be projecting any image at all.

On September 28 I E-mailed you regarding subtitle changes. Jeanette would appear eighteen to twenty-one-years-old. You replied saying "A 4 year difference would make her younger, thinner and as an adult, so there is no sex conflict there."
 
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Re: After Chaos
Reply #1614 - Nov 14th, 2016, 11:05am
 
Quote from Jeanette on Nov 14th, 2016, 8:39am:
Quote from Fernando on Nov 13th, 2016, 9:13pm:
Looks have nothing to do with being a mom. Nada. Zelch. Null Set.

"I need to look like a mom" is one way to put it. Meaning Jeanette needs to look like an adult, not a preteen.

Quote from Fernando on Nov 13th, 2016, 9:13pm:
Jeanette needs to think of Penny first before she thinks of anyone else, especially herself because the child comes first. If Jeanette goes out to whore herself to support herself and Penny and only gets a dollar - 75 cents goes to Penny first and Jeanette takes the rest.

My RL experiences with my girls holds this to be true. When I needed underwear and had $10 left from my job's pay, I had to get them their underwear first. If I had $5 and we were hungry, that $5 went into a meal that I could divide up among them and I starved that night. Everything I had to get and do for myself, I had to make sure that they were taken cared of first. Jeanette is barely showing this. Barely.

There hasn't been any situation in which Jeanette had to sacrifice for her daughter. The exception to that is Jeanette cannot be physically altered to look like a preteen, which is what she really wants. Jeanette will continue to look like an adult.

Quote from Fernando on Nov 13th, 2016, 9:13pm:
On top of that, age regression again - ? Really. If a stranger sees her and Penny they are either going to think Penny is her younger sister or Jeanette was pregnant at 10. Especially when Penny calls Jeanette "Mom" in public. What image is she trying to project? She should not be projecting any image at all.

On September 28 I E-mailed you regarding subtitle changes. Jeanette would appear eighteen to twenty-one-years-old. You replied saying "A 4 year difference would make her younger, thinner and as an adult, so there is no sex conflict there."

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There is no such thing as "Looking like a mom." A woman is a mother or despite her appearance, career choice, or financial standing in life. Maturity of her mind and emotions plus having a child at her side is what makes a woman a mother. To be a mom is taking it a step further by having that child's love and respect in that you can do no wrong to them. Out of all the mothers in the world, only half of them obtain the title of 'Mom."
 
Just because a woman has sex does not make her a mother. Just because she is pregnant and gives birth does not make her a mother. Just because she signs papers to get a child does not make her a mother. It is not her personality, her appearance nor her physical attributes that makes a woman a mother. A 10 year old girl can become a mother if she has her period. Hell, there are many cases where girls younger than 10 became mothers!  
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lina_Medina
 
What makes a woman a mother is a woman's ability to make proper decisions for the child's upbringing and wellbeing. What makes a mother a "mom" is having an emotional, caring and respectful relationship with that child. Looks have nothing to do with being a mother, and definitely in not being a "mom."
 
So, in that, how does "appearance" fit into this equation?
 
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This is not about subtle changes you are putting in. I'm stating that is it nothing more than excuses for what you believe are reasons for something that has nothing to do with this situation at all. Being mother is being able to nurture a child. Being a mom is being able to love that child a mother has. Being a nurturing mother and a loving mom has nothing to do with how the woman appears. That is something you need to understand. As a character Jeanette is only thinking about herself and not about Penny, and that is being a very selfish person and an uncaring parent because she is too tied up about her appearance and how she is going to look like years from now and not a single thought about Penny. In that, perhaps Penny should have been sent back with Wilbur, even though he molests her, he does show some interest and care to the child.
 
Jeanette should be thinking - #$@! what the spirits are offering me; what can I get from them for Penny first to make her happy before I can reap anything from what they offer?  In that Jeanette needs to understand that if she continues the way she is, she is an uncaring parent, and she will raise up an uncaring and selfish child who will become a criminal as an adult. Does Jeanette want that has her legacy? Because that is where it is going.
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Reply #1615 - Nov 14th, 2016, 12:38pm
 
Note: I already said this; I'll break it down. Jeanette's statement is a way of saying she needs to look like an adult, not a preteen, as we had discussed earlier.
 
The discussion we had earlier has been about Jeanette's appearance, also what image she presents, not how fit she is.
 
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Reply #1616 - Nov 14th, 2016, 1:20pm
 
Note: But, isn't Jeanette already an adult? It does not matter how she looks like, its how she acts that makes her an adult or not and people will respect her for it or wont.
 
If it does not fit her, then welcome to the Human Condition. There is a lot of things people do not like about themselves, and accepting one's self as they are is a bitch of a problem for all of us where some of us get it early on and many others get it later on, and still only a few never get it at all.
 
There is only one Jeanette, and she is not perfect so she needs to accept who she is and what she is because she can not love no body else if she does not love herself first. That means that she can not be a "mom" to Penny.
 
Fernando (I) is not perfect. He has scars, injuries, sensitivities to light and certain foods, and has big feet and big hands. Plus he's (like I did) is turning grey at an early age (though his immortality slowed it down) making him look older than he actually is. But he (I) is not going to get his hair colored.
 
It's like a talk I had with a girl years ago about girls stuffing their bras or guys stuffing their jocks to make themselves look bigger than they actually are. What good is that if they end up in a situation where that 'stuffing' is to be removed and their true selves revealed? That is going to be a more than embarrassing moment than they may be able to handle. That is why it is best to be who and what you are than to pretend to be something else you are not. And it is best to accept yourself as you are because that is all you got. You just have to make the best of what you got. So stop slouching and feeling sorry for your self. Stand up straight, thrust you chest out and be proud of what you got to offer. And protect it from those willing to take it away from you.
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Reply #1617 - Nov 14th, 2016, 3:10pm
 
Quote from Fernando on Nov 14th, 2016, 1:20pm:
It does not matter how she looks like, its how she acts that makes her an adult or not and people will respect her for it or wont.

Then what was with all the uproar over the Spirits altering Jeanette's appearance to look like a prepubescent female?
 
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Reply #1618 - Nov 15th, 2016, 12:10am
 
Because she's already an adult (1) and and she's not Lina Medina to explain how can a preteen girl can be the mother of another preteen girl who is almost her age if not older. Jeanette was not born pregnant (2). And no adult is going to believe the word of a child in the job she does as an adult so respect for her at that regressed age will be very difficult (3). Shall I continue with more? We've been through this before so it would be best to stop boomeranging back to something that can not happen.
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Reply #1619 - Nov 15th, 2016, 6:26am
 
Note: Then let's go back to an adult with subtitle changes like we agreed to instead of making a mountain over how I worded one line.
 
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