Hondo's Cabin - After Chaos

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Re: After Chaos
Reply #1570 - Nov 4^th, 2016, 2:32pm

Mavis looks at Fernando as if he's from another world. "A pancake is a baked good, eaten as a dessert or a snack. Hotcakes are flat cakes, thin and round, cooked on a hot surface such as a griddle or frying pan. And what do you mean times like these?" Ever since she was a baby, Mavis has always remained in a small first-world nation. It was only when she turned eighteen that she was allowed to fly beyond Charlton's boarders.

Mavis continues. "I get it. I've studied the Law of Moshe." Mavis looks at the packaging. "Oh. I did not know kosher bacon existed outside of Charlton or Israel. I was not allowed outside of Charlton until I turned eighteen."

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Re: After Chaos
Reply #1571 - Nov 4^th, 2016, 7:56pm

Note: Mavis is a " spirit" thus an alien. It's all about perspective. Hondo sees them as outsiders. The time he came from had issues but this one is phucked up. Big difference are these alien beings that moved to earth. To him they are aliens and not to be trusted. Karl has similar views as he sees them as monsters that moved in to conquer and manipulate people for their own amusement. The wessen community as a whole, as I have said before, either is afraid of them or plain hates them so they will always be seen as alien invaders. Mavis, being born on earth will see it as home and may not understand why there are those who believe she doesn't belong and want her and her kind off the planet. Maybe in your charlton they are seen as the benevolent spirits who aid the people but that isn't wide spread nor would it be. People will always fear or hate those who have more power than they do, it's a natural law.

Now, unfortunately it went too fast but hondo would have had choice cuss words when it came to anything called Bacon that isn't pork being in his camper. Remember that. Turkey burgers and anything called Bacon that isn't pork are abominations to him. He can deal with other attrosities but the line is drawn there. If people need special Bacon or burgers he will gladly let them cook them themselves outside in a snowndrift.

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Hondo: I reckon Val is awake. Tonya, well she probably needs to be up. I'll go check.

Hondo went to the bedroom and was back in a moment.

Hondo : they are comin'.

Hondo grabbed his plate and moved to the recliner leaving the couch and a good part of the table open. Valentine came out dressed a few moments later and a sleepy Tonya, in a bath robe followed her.

Valentine: Mornin'! How's everyone today?

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Well the cowboy, like the red man, you had to leave your land
You can't raise your stock and plant your crop in the gumbo and the sand
Greed disguised as progress has put us to the test
They won't be glad until we're gone from our home out in the west
It's sad to see those good old days replaced with greed and doubt
Soon we'll leave the country, the campfire has gone out
Bid 'em all adieu, you can't turn the world about
The cowboy left the country, the campfire has gone out

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Re: After Chaos
Reply #1572 - Nov 4^th, 2016, 9:16pm

Note: Actually Mavis is an impossibility, because she is a daughter of vampire (Dracula), and in Stroker's, Rice's and the Bible's interpretations of Vampire, they can not Sexually Reproduce - Only Satan can and she would have been an Succubus, which is an "Evil spirit made in {female form} flesh." See movies: Rosemary's Baby and The Omen. Leave to Disney & Pixar for a Vampire to turn vampires into nice people and have babies.

Mavis is based on that Disney/Pixar movie Hotel Transylvania & HT-2, that she is a vampire born from a vampire mother and vampire father (Dracula), and thus is a spirit in that form and not an alien though she has worked with them (in this RPG, not the movies). BTW - Mavis is not Jewish, but rather Christian/Pagan as to Vladimir Dracul's (Vlad The Impaler...) Romanian Religion of mixing Christianity and Paganism.

Only thing closest to Mavis in any form is the Japanese Dampuroo (p?) - who is basically the child born from a sired woman (turned into a vampire by a vampire) who was pregnant at the time she was sired. The birth of the child is usually death for the woman, and those it ages normally up to adult hood, it is immortal and has a blood lust.

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"It's freezing outside with snow on the ground and the electric camp's water supply froze over so it ain't moving until it thaws out." Fernando says as he makes a couple of plates for the ladies. The he realizes that there is somebody missing. "Where's Karl?"

"Probably freezin' in his truck." Hondo points out.

"OK. I'll get him in here for him to warm up and eat something. Then if the snow does not melt, he can help shovel us out while I think about this situation." Fernando says.

"The Camper's electronics frozen over, Jefe?" Hondo asks.

"I don't think so, unless the batteries are watered down and they froze over. I doubt it, they seemed new so there should only be acid in them and not water. We will have to check them later. Chances are the other VW Camper's water is also frozen as well." Fernando says as he prepares a plate for Karl.

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Jeanette Experianced Posts: 1154	Re: After Chaos Reply #1573 - Nov 4^th, 2016, 9:29pm Note: Hondo's opinion is Hondo's opinion. I'm saying an opinion was written as fact. Yes, it is fact that more than one alien race relocated to Earth and at least one race has been here on Earth for thousands of years. There are other races, no matter how far back one checks, can be traced to Earth. Jeanette Isabelle
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Re: After Chaos
Reply #1574 - Nov 4^th, 2016, 9:40pm

Note: No matter how long an alien race who has settled on Earth from outer space, they are not of this earth. I do not care if they dirty danced with the Dinosaurs and have survived cataclysm on cataclysm through the eons' march through time to present date, if they have not evolved from the Earth's primordial slime as we have done, then they can never be "of or from Earth."

And that can be easily verified from DNA/RNA. Mankind has captured enough genetic material from Mars, Asteroids and Comets to conclude that there DNA is found on those samples, it matches nothing found on Earth.

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Re: After Chaos
Reply #1575 - Nov 4^th, 2016, 9:43pm

Quote from Fernando on Nov 4^th, 2016, 9:16pm:

Note: Actually Mavis is an impossibility, because she is a daughter of vampire (Dracula), and in Stroker's, Rice's and the Bible's interpretations of Vampire, they can not Sexually Reproduce - Only Satan can and she would have been an Succubus, which is an "Evil spirit made in {female form} flesh." See movies: Rosemary's Baby and The Omen. Leave to Disney & Pixar for a Vampire to turn vampires into nice people and have babies.

Mavis is based on that Disney/Pixar movie Hotel Transylvania & HT-2, that she is a vampire born from a vampire mother and vampire father (Dracula), and thus is a spirit in that form and not an alien though she has worked with them (in this RPG, not the movies). BTW - Mavis is not Jewish, but rather Christian/Pagan as to Vladimir Dracul's (Vlad The Impaler...) Romanian Religion of mixing Christianity and Paganism.

Only thing closest to Mavis in any form is the Japanese Dampuroo (p?) - who is basically the child born from a sired woman (turned into a vampire by a vampire) who was pregnant at the time she was sired. The birth of the child is usually death for the woman, and those it ages normally up to adult hood, it is immortal and has a blood lust.

We already discussed borrowing a character and making changes to that character.

This character, the one I introduced to this RPG, grew up in a nation where Judaism is the state religion hence why she is saying what she's saying.

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Re: After Chaos
Reply #1576 - Nov 4^th, 2016, 9:56pm

Quote from Fernando on Nov 4^th, 2016, 9:40pm:

Note: No matter how long an alien race who has settled on Earth from outer space, they are not of this earth. I do not care if they dirty danced with the Dinosaurs and have survived cataclysm on cataclysm through the eons' march through time to present date, if they have not evolved from the Earth's primordial slime as we have done, then they can never be "of or from Earth."

That is what I am saying. Some races, no matter how many thousands of years they have been here, are not originally from here. Other races began on Earth. If you want to do a test on Moro and another test on Mavis to learn which Spirit is originally from Earth and which is not, have at it.

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Re: After Chaos
Reply #1577 - Nov 4^th, 2016, 10:05pm

Quote from Jeanette on Nov 4^th, 2016, 9:43pm:

Quote from Fernando on Nov 4^th, 2016, 9:16pm:

Note: Actually Mavis is an impossibility, because she is a daughter of vampire (Dracula), and in Stroker's, Rice's and the Bible's interpretations of Vampire, they can not Sexually Reproduce - Only Satan can and she would have been an Succubus, which is an "Evil spirit made in {female form} flesh." See movies: Rosemary's Baby and The Omen. Leave to Disney & Pixar for a Vampire to turn vampires into nice people and have babies.

Mavis is based on that Disney/Pixar movie Hotel Transylvania & HT-2, that she is a vampire born from a vampire mother and vampire father (Dracula), and thus is a spirit in that form and not an alien though she has worked with them (in this RPG, not the movies). BTW - Mavis is not Jewish, but rather Christian/Pagan as to Vladimir Dracul's (Vlad The Impaler...) Romanian Religion of mixing Christianity and Paganism.

Only thing closest to Mavis in any form is the Japanese Dampuroo (p?) - who is basically the child born from a sired woman (turned into a vampire by a vampire) who was pregnant at the time she was sired. The birth of the child is usually death for the woman, and those it ages normally up to adult hood, it is immortal and has a blood lust.

We already discussed borrowing a character and making changes to that character.

This character, the one I introduced to this RPG, grew up in a nation where Judaism is the state religion hence why she is saying what she's saying.

Jeanette Isabelle

All that is a given that you changed her about in order to fit her into the RPG. That I have no problem with. But, you keeping her as a vampire, no matter how nice she is, that posses a different set of issues and problems for her as a character.

Case in point, Mavis' mother was murdered by "Humans" as in the movie and you stated in the RPG. But you made her sound like the mother is the innocent one here. Doesn't Mavis realizes that as a vampire, she is a hunter/killer of humans, she is a predator of humans? That is not possible to do. In that she either is or is not. As a predator of humans, no vampire is innocent, and must suffer when the flock turns against them. Humanity maybe stupid, but hey are far from helpless.

She can act, say and do things to say that she is not an evil vampire, but she is. She can be like Lestat (Interview of a Vampire) and other vampires who do not kill and try to do good for humans, but she is and always will be a vampire.

But do note - Fernando finds no problems with that. No problem at all. If she tries to turn on him or anyone else, he will give her one chance to undo what she did or he will take care of her one way or another. What actions are to be taken, like everything else, remains to be seen.

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Re: After Chaos
Reply #1578 - Nov 5^th, 2016, 8:12am

Quote from Fernando on Nov 4^th, 2016, 10:05pm:

But, you keeping her as a vampire, no matter how nice she is, that posses a different set of issues and problems for her as a character.

I'm not keeping her as a vampire. That's because she isn't a vampire, not here. I am, however, in the process of setting up an explanation of the vampire myth and where it came from hence her last name and family's nationality. The vampire myth did originate with her family; it is just a myth. There is no such thing as a vampire.

Quote from Fernando on Nov 4^th, 2016, 10:05pm:

Case in point, Mavis' mother was murdered by "Humans" as in the movie and you stated in the RPG. But you made her sound like the mother is the innocent one here.

That does not make Mavis or her mom a vampire. Yes, Mavis' mom was murdered by humans; those humans were Spirit haters.

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Re: After Chaos
Reply #1579 - Nov 5^th, 2016, 9:49am

That's why I said that, jefe. Jeanette said from the beginning that Mavis was a spirit and they were thought to be vampires but are not.

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Well the cowboy, like the red man, you had to leave your land
You can't raise your stock and plant your crop in the gumbo and the sand
Greed disguised as progress has put us to the test
They won't be glad until we're gone from our home out in the west
It's sad to see those good old days replaced with greed and doubt
Soon we'll leave the country, the campfire has gone out
Bid 'em all adieu, you can't turn the world about
The cowboy left the country, the campfire has gone out

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