Hondo's Cabin - After Chaos

Jeanette

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Re: After Chaos
Reply #1510 - Oct 1^st, 2016, 3:00pm

Quote from Fernando on Oct 1^st, 2016, 12:09pm:

How much of all this has survived from the happening, remains to be seen.

The tsunami and earthquakes would damage their rail lines and stations; the Texas Spirits would have them repaired. Repairing these lines and stations would mean jobs for local people. These people are then further benefited when the lines in question are operational again.

How much of the 80 Line (I'm using the 80 Line as an example because it's the only going from the east to the west coast) would resume operation depends on how much of the west coast is in the Pacific and what kind of damage was done by the tsunami. Did any part of the east coast get washed out to sea? Are parts of the east coast that are under water? Things like that would determine how much of Line 80 would be back in operation.

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Re: After Chaos
Reply #1511 - Oct 4^th, 2016, 10:38am

When I chose the rail lines for the railroad the Texas Spirits built, there were several things I wanted: All rail lines must go through or near Charlton. It's a railroad that could conceivably been started (not necessarily completed) in the 1800s. It has to be easy for a passenger to find the right passenger train. It has to be easy for us as players to look at a map to know if the party is near one of the rail lines (except for when exceptions have to be made, the rail lines run alongside or near the original U.S. highways).

The following are the three hubs (Dallas, Fort Worth and Denton), the rail line number and the final destinations in the U.S. prior to the happening.

Dallas To
67 Dubuque, Iowa
67 Presidio, Texas
75 Noyes, Minnesota
75 Galveston, Texas
75 Jacksonville, Texas
77 Noyes, Minnesota
77 Corpus Christi, Texas
77 Brownsville, Texas
80 Tybee Island, Georgia
80 San Diego, California
80 Grand Canyon Village, Arizona

Fort Worth
81 Pembina, North Dakota
81 Laredo, Texas
287 Choteau, Montana
287 Port Arthur, Texas
377 Stroud, Oklahoma
377 Del Rio, Texas

Denton
380 Dubuque, Iowa
380 San Antonio, New Mexico

If you think I need to add more rail lines, let me know.

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Reply #1512 - Oct 5^th, 2016, 1:16am

Taking the Pennsylvania Railroad as an example; the main hub is in Philadelphia, Penn, with 2 others in the major cities in the state of Pennsylvania, giving it 3 hubs within the state.

All the main stations that connects to all the major cities East to New York City, West to Missouri, South to Georgia and North to Maine. In every city it has a stop on, that station is called "Penn Station" for the Pennsylvania Railroad that goes through it. New York's Penn Station connects with other railroads including the NYC Subway, The Long Island Rail Road, New Jersey Transit, AmTrac and a coupe more others. But in every city the Pennsylvania Railroad has a station in, that station is called Penn Station.

It is a fairly extensive railroad, built originally in the 1850's so there is some history with it. Funny, Al Sharpton is trying to the Pennsylvania Railroad for slave repartitions, but the Penn RR has been out of business since the 1950s, bought out by AmTrac around that time. And Al Sharpton can not sue AmTrac for things the Penn RR did long ago.

On the map it looks like a fuzzy T, but that is just one line. There are other railroads connecting and sharing tracks with it, making it part of the national network, both passenger and freight. Yours is similar to this. What is the main Texas train system and then find out where it goes and what it connects too. I know that there are a couple of train lines that goes to Mexico from Canada and though Texas, but this is not part of the Texas Train lines, just connects to it.

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Re: After Chaos
Reply #1513 - Oct 5^th, 2016, 8:27am

Quote from Fernando on Oct 5^th, 2016, 1:16am:

What is the main Texas train system and then find out where it goes and what it connects too. I know that there are a couple of train lines that goes to Mexico from Canada and though Texas, but this is not part of the Texas Train lines, just connects to it.

I did look at historic rail maps. I also have a general idea of where local rail lines are from living there. Some, not all, of the original U.S. highways travel along side a railroad.

Example: In 1882 a rail line was built from Dallas to Cleburne. Later the original section of U.S. 67 from Dallas to Cleburne was alongside that rail line. Parts of the original U.S. 80 was also alongside another rail line, some of it still does.

With the knowledge of where towns and highways would be, the Texas Spirits are able to build rail lines where whey need to be, starting in the early 1800s.

As I stated previously, I want a rail system that is easy for us as players to understand. I can't draw a map so to make it easy for us, look for the U.S. highways on Google maps.

Back to a previous question, should I include more rail lines to cover more places?

Since I did not get a reply to the draft I sent via E-mail, I take it there is nothing objectionable?

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Reply #1514 - Oct 5^th, 2016, 10:44am

Your question would be answered by knowing what other lines (passenger and freight) outside of Texas goes into Texas and connects to the Texas RR. For example AmTrac. AmTrac owns much of the passenger railroad in the continental USA. They did this by buying out bankrupt railroads and merging their lines together, and then connecting them to other lines. I know AmTrac goes through Texas and connects to their railroad lines from there.

At best, Charlton should have its own city railroad/subway system, and it connects to the larger Texas RR, which connects to a regional or national RR like AmTrac. With these connections, railroads can share facilities as needed, like repair depots. So people have to get off trains, walk across platforms and get to other trains, this is being done as we speak in present time.

Many highways run parallel to railroad lines as these 'highways' were originally laid down over time before the railroads, and when the tracks for the trains were laid down, they followed in parallel these horse & buggy paths. These paths later became the highways we know today. This gives various cities and towns options as how people and freight travel to/from them.

As for the email, I'm pondering on the subject.

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Re: After Chaos
Reply #1515 - Oct 5^th, 2016, 12:08pm

I want to keep this simple. My proposed idea is simple. I don't need to know where the real world rail lines are to have the Texas Spirits build some of the first rail lines and in the places where they want them. All I need to know is the history of each U.S. highway. There is a web site that has the history of each U.S. highway.

Therefore knowing where real world rail lines are would not answer my question.

Quote from Fernando on Oct 5^th, 2016, 10:44am:

As for the email, I'm pondering on the subject.

You're pondering the subject? That doesn't sound good.

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Re: After Chaos
Reply #1516 - Oct 5^th, 2016, 3:20pm

As stated on some old email, you stated that the Spirits have taken cared of Texas, not just Charlton alone. Then you reduced it to Charlton. If it were to have been the first, connecting cities by rail would have been easier to do and you would have had a larger population to deal with for the jobs of maintaining this is concerned. Shrinking it down to just Charlton, now you have a Hub or Terminal city for the railroads that spread out from there.

Both are simple to do but hard to figure out what is needed.

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Fernando YaBB Administrator NY City Posts: 2380 Gender:	Re: After Chaos Reply #1517 - Oct 5^th, 2016, 3:22pm Quote from Jeanette on Oct 5^th, 2016, 12:08pm: Quote from Fernando on Oct 5^th, 2016, 10:44am: As for the email, I'm pondering on the subject. You're pondering the subject? That doesn't sound good. Jeanette Isabelle I got a lot of things on my mind and things to get done so certain things have a higher priority than this.
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Re: After Chaos
Reply #1518 - Oct 5^th, 2016, 4:16pm

Nothing has not been reduced to Charlton. Only their approach to the problem was changed. For the latest change in the time line the Texas Spirits stepped away from Texas politics and put more of their energy in the Texas economy.

Quote from Jeanette on Aug 31^st, 2016, 1:38pm:

This time the Texas Spirits were less involved in Texas politics and put more of their focus on the Texas economy. One could argue this resulted in a better outcome.

As for all three hubs being near Charlton, it's the "all roads lead to Rome" mindset.

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Re: After Chaos
Reply #1519 - Oct 8^th, 2016, 11:35am

I made some changes to my "rail map." I move one of the hubs from Denton to Greenville and added another line: 69. Getting deeper into the history, I learned I could add more places to travel while alleviating some of the congestion surrounding Charlton. As the "map" expanded, I needed to simplify though at the expense of convenience to some passengers (some will need to de board one train and board another to get to their destination).

Dallas To
67 Dubuque, Iowa
67 Presidio, Texas
67 Hardy, Arkansas
75 Noyes, Minnesota
75 Galveston, Texas
75 Jacksonville, Texas
75 O'Neill, Nebraska
77 Ortonville, Minnesota
77 Corpus Christi, Texas
77 Brownsville, Texas
77 South Haven, Kansas
77 Stroud, Oklahoma
80 Tybee Island, Georgia
80 San Diego, California
80 Grand Canyon Village, Arizona
80 Savannah, Georgia
80 San Antonio, New Mexico

Fort Worth
77 Ortonville, Minnesota
77 South Haven, Kansas
77 Stroud, Oklahoma
77 Carrizo Springs, Texas
81 Pembina, North Dakota
81 Laredo, Texas
81 Corpus Christi, Texas
81 Brownsville, Texas
87 Babb, Montana
87 Havre, Montana
87 Choteau, Montana
87 Port Arthur, Texas

Greenville
69 Albert Lea, Minnesota
69 Port Arthur, Texas
69 International Falls, Minnesota
80 San Antonio, New Mexico

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