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After Chaos (Read 186304 times)
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Re: After Chaos
Reply #1030 - May 6th, 2016, 11:17pm
 
"Quit while you are ahead because as-is, it sounds like Moro took Elsa from her home to Texas and then here where Jeanette picks her up; so we got child kidnapping and possible illegal child selling and possible child slavery. So as to not incriminate Jeanette in this, lets end it here. We got people to save and a ride to prepare for. You said hello to the four ladies that might be joining the group?" Fernando says and asks.
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Reply #1031 - May 7th, 2016, 7:48am
 
Actually that is not what Hikaru wanted to say. According to the journal Moro wanted to discuss something with Jeanette, Fernando and Hondo. The idea was to figure out a way to return Elsa to her time so she could be reunited with her sister and become queen of Arendelle. Fernando and Hondo did not want to talk to Moro. Therefore a solution to the problem was never discussed. Elsa did not return to her time so Jeanette adopted her. Hikaru understands why Fernando does not want to know what's in the journal.
 
"I haven't met them yet." Hikaru answers. There is one other thing Hikaru wanted to talk about. "There's something else I wanted to say to help put things into perspective. If you were surrounded by and protected by secret service agents since before you were born, would you know what's normal?"
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Reply #1032 - May 7th, 2016, 11:05am
 
"No you wouldn't. What information, knowledge, education and experience would have been filtered through them. This you would never grow up knowing what could have been your full potential and know what is pain and failure is. Your friends, colleagues and even certain members of your family would have been chosen through them for you." He answers.
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Reply #1033 - May 7th, 2016, 4:17pm
 
"That begs a question. Why would they guard Jeanette around the clock as if she's the president of the United States? I've studied every book I can find on Arendelle, the city state of Charlton and I studied Jeanette's journal." Hikaru knows from reading the journal that Elsa was not sold and, from her point of view, Elsa was not a slave. Hikaru tries to remember if there is anything that Jeanette actually said. "I do remember something Jeanette said. Jeanette said she adopted Elsa because Elsa could not return to her time."
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Reply #1034 - May 7th, 2016, 4:57pm
 
"Elsa could not be brought be back because Moro messed up." Fernando says, "How do you explain that the girl you sent to her room the night before is now taller and older the next morning as if she spend months, if not years some place else in time? By their perception, what is witchcraft - and they would burn Moro and Elsa at a stake for it."
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Reply #1035 - May 7th, 2016, 8:51pm
 
Note: I made a goof in my previous post by leaving a part out. We'll do what they do in golf and play it as it lies.
 
Hikaru nods, thinking Fernando may be onto something. "According to every book and reference material I studied, the details of the alliance Charlton forged with Arendelle in 1803 are sealed. If Moro was sincere about returning Elsa to her time and if that is the nature of the unmentioned problem, then you may be right. Moro messed up. Elsa has already been here four months."
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Reply #1036 - May 7th, 2016, 9:04pm
 
"Back in 1803 - everything was explained either science, technology, magic or witchcraft. Science and technology was very limited in 1803, so trying to explain your girl aging several months over night.... that's either magic or witchcraft." Fernando says.
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Reply #1037 - May 7th, 2016, 9:55pm
 
Hikaru nods again. "I studied everything I can find on the Charlton-Arendelle alliance. What Arendelle got out of the alliance is obvious to everyone who has studied it. Arendelle has been untouchable ever since then." Hikaru pauses. "The problem you just mentioned never occurred to me."
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Reply #1038 - May 7th, 2016, 10:13pm
 
Fernando begins, "I remember another Space/Time Traveler who went by the name of 'Misao Sakomori.' Chronologically she died at about age 35 because she died in the Time she started in, but in actuality she was in her late 80s. The reason being, she lost track of her aging while in Time Traveling and when she realized what was going on, it was too late. So she went back home and 'died peacefully.' Of course she was a thorn on my side as far as Time Travel and Event interfering was concerned but she was respected in that she did what she thought was right without making it bad for everyone else as best as she could. She did have her issues though. But that is another story, but the same thing is happening here - Elsa is aging, as is everyone else, even though we are displaced in time. If we return Elsa, she would go back much older than she left which is going to cause problems for her and Moro. For some of us it is not that bad - a few weeks. But for others - years had gone by. So, somebody f'ed up in their math. Plain and simple."
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Reply #1039 - May 7th, 2016, 11:07pm
 
"This is going to cause a problem for Moro?" Hikaru asks. "That's pointing out the obvious. I'm more concerned about Elsa. Elsa could not return to her time but Jeanette did adopt her. By the way, Elsa grew up to be a beautiful woman." Hikaru pauses. "According to that logic, Chihiro can't return to her time either. Chihiro has been gone for a year because of a group of Spirits in Japan. Also she is a mutant with feline mouth. How is she going to explain that if she goes back home?"
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