Well thats good then i hope all Gays and Lesbains that love the Lord and belive in Crist's Sacrifice get into heaven  

you also find that Sodom and Gamora were destroyed because of same sex relationships. there are others like the passage that says since men have rejected God he at times turns them to the things not convenient for the flesh, wich physically you can see man and woman were made for each other. i really believe same sex relationships are not natural and wrong. I don't hate the people involved, but I do see it as a sin.
 
I won't throw anyone out for it here as long as it is not forcibly brought up all the time. I see this as bein' a shame to society and our country.  
 
Hondo

Understand one thing about Christianity.
 
No matter how many time you may faulter, 'god' will forgive you if you ask for that forgiveness. In Christianity, 'god' understands that we are human, are not perfect, and will faulter to the pattern of our choice preferences; therefore he will forgive those who ask for forgiveness.
 
This is not a choice matter of one's sexual orientation. This is a matter of choices one makes in life, which includes acceptance and forgiveness.
 
This is a far better choice than someother religions where you are forced to believe or are killed for the choices you make.

Quote from Soda on Feb 14^th, 2008, 7:55pm:

 
Dont look at History so one sided.
These events did not spontaneously started, and most of them are reactionary responces to events that fell upon Christian communities. Before Christianity (and still to this day), Jews were the pick-on group of day. I'm just going to take one these, forI know the historical facts that has occurred at the time. Unfortunately, I am related to this historical event, for my blood and genetic linage  goes back to the Spanish Crown and the family that protects it until 1863.
 
(Excuse me if I'm off by a few years, as I'm doing this off the top of my head and not researching it from the net.)
 
The Spanish Inquisition and in part, the Crusades, were started about 70 years before, when A Muslim Emperor (who some said had syphillis on the brain), decided to end all peaceful trade with the Western European cultures and attack them out right in 1420. Millions died at his hand. But technology for what it was for its day- news of such attacks, and the attacks themselves did not take over all of Europe until 1430-1440. By the time it reached Spain, it was mid 1450's. It was also at this time that Spain was reunifying into a nation, instead of a cluster of nation states. It this time, No other country was unified. Final unification came from the marriage of King Ferdinand of Leon & Aragon and Queen Isabella of Castillino in 1470's
 
But at the same time, the mulsim hordes were attacking at the spanish gates. The Catholic Church came to Spain seeking refuge from Muslims, and as such granted powers to the Royal family if they were to help them in battle. This little war lasted for decades, part of which was the Spanish Inquisiton. It ended with the Marriage of King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella. The rest is history.
 
So to say that the Spanish Inquistion was something that the Spanards decided to get upand do on their own, is wrong. Spain was not yet a unfied country. And the Muslim Moors came in to attack, so Spain was the only country to repell the attacks, and enacted the Inquisition as a defense and loyalty mechanism. Once Spain repelled them back out of their borders, other countries/nation-stated joined in and sent the muslms back the Arabian sub-continent.
 
Like I said- dont look at history so 1 sided. Do the reseach, dig deeper into the events, and understand what happened. And consider that this is a guy who's ancestors were part of the Spanish Inquistion and Spanish Royal history. Sometimes things happen because some old feeling from 100 years before gets brought up and somebody strikes first, and things continue from there.

Thanks so much for discussing this with me.  I'm finding this most interesting and exciting.  I never quite grasped how slow information would travel earlier in history, so sometimes I don't take these things into consideration.  Putting that aside, it can be said that the Christians of these eras did not have to be so brutal, nor did they need to execute or imprison people.  For example, rather than burning the witches in the Salem witch trials, could they not have simply exiled them?
 
Also, if the faith is what matters (rather than the individual church/denomination), then how are people able to reconcile their different interpretations?  That doesn't seem to happen, and as such, different groups get quite angry towards each other.  The wouldjesusdiscriminate.com website is a good example: some people interpret the Bible as being non-discriminatory towards homosexuals, while other people choose to interpret the Bible as demanding punishment towards homosexuals.  Also, I have noticed that Christians will fight among themselves over other theological issues, such as the right to divorce (Henry the 8th of England is a good example of this), the concept of the Holy Trinity (whether the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost are one unified entity or three separate entities; compare Catholicism to Protestantism), and political aspects (depending upon whether the church interprets the Bible as being supportive of left-wing or right-wing politics; compare, for example, George Bush's interpretations to, for example again, Hugo Chavez's interpretations).  How can they argue and disrespect each other, if in the end they are all equal brothers in Christ?