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LIVE CDs
Jan 19th, 2008, 9:15pm
 
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are CD that can boot the system onto the computer (If the computer allows being booted from the CD Drive) without interfering with what is on the hard drive.
 
There are many Lice Linux CD, which includes:
Knoppix (the one that started it all)
Ubuntu Series (A popular new comer who prides on ease of use)
Linspire/Freespire. Linspire used to be sold preinstalled on computers sold at WalMart.
Slax (is geared to tech-heads, and system administrators)
-and more.
 
You can get them at their websites, or at Linux[DOT]org.
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Re: LIVE CDs
Reply #1 - Jan 23rd, 2008, 1:31pm
 
I love live CDs. Before I set up a new computer, I throw in one of my Knoppix copies and use it to partition the HDD. You never know what the installer of a new Linux distro will offer you. And I do know that the Windows installer will never let you partition your disk before installing. Just look around and try to find one pre-installed Windows box with a pre-partitioned HDD.
 
Guess I'll give Dynebolic, a multimedia live distro, a closer look.
 
 
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Re: LIVE CDs
Reply #2 - Feb 19th, 2008, 11:15pm
 
Quote from Midnight Man on Jan 23rd, 2008, 1:31pm:
And I do know that the Windows installer will never let you partition your disk before installing.

Looking in retrospect at all the installations of Windows I have done, I can honestly say that I can remember many occasions when the installer asked me to create and size partitions.  Admittedly I always install on hard disk drives that are devoid of any existing partitioning, but the partitioning tool was there in the installer, and it worked beautifully.  After installing Windows, the Disk Management console provides a nice interface for creating and sizing additional partitions as required too.
 
Quote from Midnight Man on Jan 23rd, 2008, 1:31pm:
Just look around and try to find one pre-installed Windows box with a pre-partitioned HDD.

I'll assume that you mean a pre-partitioned hard disk drive with multiple partitions, as it would be impossible to have Windows pre-installed without at least one primary partition in existence, considering that it would have no allocated place to exist on the hard disk drive.
 
The reason that pre-installed computers have no additional partitioning is quite simple, and based on multiple factors:
  • Firstly, the company selling the computer generally will have no real understanding of how you plan to use the computer, and therefore have no basis on which to plan additional partitioning.  Would you want someone picking and choosing the size of your partitions, when they'd probably just get them wrong anyway?
  • Secondly, if the operator is knowledgeable enough to understand and manipulate partitions, it would take no great effort to erase the hard disk drive and re-partition it to their exact specifications.
  • Thirdly, if the operator is not knowledgeable enough to understand partitioning, then it's best if they only have a single partition, to avoid the inevitable confusion when they open "My Computer" and see three or four hard disk drive icons.  In this case, chances are that their usage of the computer is quite limited in nature, in which case the pros of partitioning are outweighed by the cons.
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Re: LIVE CDs
Reply #3 - Feb 20th, 2008, 11:52am
 
99% of the time, the operator is not knowledgable of what s/he is doing and assumes that the software is doing the right thing for them. We how know something about computers and their operations are probably the elite 5% of the total computer user groups.
 
Being a member of serveral community creation forums (forums about creating forums), I find that even there, the local idiots want to do something grand, and yet is unable to figure out what needs to be one, and the exerienced users like myself- have to explain every step that they must take even though such steps are printed inthe instructions.
 
These are Live CDs, which will run on your system if your system allows to be booted from the cd drive. Running an OS from the CD is slow, but it gives a demonstration of how the system should work. And if they like it, then they can install it on their systems.
 
I have several of these live CDs, so if any one wants, I can send them a list and mail them a cd package. All I'm asking is $5 to cover my travel and shipping expenses for this task. But it would be easier to just download the CD from the respected websites.
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Reply #4 - Nov 13th, 2008, 9:58pm
 
I have Ubuntu on my computer.  I have a USB modem and am trying to find a driver to make it work on Linux.  Does anyone know where I can find one?  I would appreciate any info about it.  Thanks!
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Reply #5 - Nov 22nd, 2008, 8:50pm
 
Try:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
 
Worse comes to worst- Linux Ant claims to have drivers for everything for any version of Linux, but will charge you $20 per download.
http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/
 
They have 3 types of modem drivers (HSF softmodem driver, DGC modem driver, HCF modem driver), so you have to know exactly what you have or else be prepared to shellout more than what you expected too.
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Reply #6 - Feb 15th, 2009, 6:54pm
 
Quote from ducktape on Nov 13th, 2008, 9:58pm:
I have Ubuntu on my computer.  I have a USB modem and am trying to find a driver to make it work on Linux.  Does anyone know where I can find one?  I would appreciate any info about it.  Thanks!

I'm sorry that this reply is so slow.  I'm hoping that you've already got that fixed by now, but if not, try this page:
 
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
 
USB and Internal dialup modems are very frustrating to me, because in most cases both types are actually software-driven devices.  That is, software running on your computer emulates a large amount of the work that a modem would traditionally do by itself.  These are sometimes called WinModems.  Conversely, the old serial-port modems (and some of the more expensive and rare internal modems) are much easier to use, and will oftentimes run on a 'generic' serial-port driver.
 
The reasons I don't like WinModems are numerous.  Firstly, drop-outs.  In cases where you're using a sub-par telephone line, or where the distance to your telephone exchange is high (such as in regional areas), you'll likely find that you'll experience more drop-outs with a WinModem.  This is because, for some reason unknown to myself, WinModems train very aggressively on the phone line.  Hardware modems seem to cope better, and will train at a lower rate to begin with.  Perhaps the logic in WinModems for determining the phone line quality is impaired due to the increased simplicity of the hardware.  Either way, you don't want drop-outs.  Secondly, retrains.  Again, we're talking about sub-par telephone lines here.  After training too aggressively on the phone line, and negotiating a higher speed than the phone line can really cope with, your modem will notice a high degree of corrupted data, and it'll try a retrain.  During a retrain, your modem will stop sending and receiving data and it will attempt to renegotiate a good line speed.  This can take place very quickly (a few seconds) or it can take ages (up to or over a whole minute).  In some cases, a retrain may even end with a drop-out.  Again, you don't want retrains.  Imagine having to wait 30 seconds every few minutes, simply because your modem can't handle the phone line properly.  Thirdly, they're software driven.  This means that the company producing the chipset will write complex software to emulate many of the modem's jobs.  This cuts into your own processing power (although, admittedly, these days it's negligible due to high-powered multi-core CPUs).  Furthermore, if you need to port the driver to another operating system that the hardware manufacturer doesn't support, the job will be much much harder.  Fourthly, they're 56k, which in practical terms is only about 50k at most (on a good-quality Australian copper line).  I prefer to pay more and get DSL.  This is dependent on your budget and your degree of Internet usage, so that point may be moot.
 
I know that points 1 and 2 don't matter so much if you're living in a good area (close to your phone exchange and on good quality new phone lines), but I used to live in a fairly rural area, and my phone exchange was miles away.  I trialed both a USRobotics serial-port 56k modem and a "no-frills" Conexant internal modem, and the difference was noticable.  The serial-port modem was so much nicer, and would work perfectly in Red Hat (version 6, at the time).  The Conexant would only work in Windows (because I couldn't be bothered trying all the crazy voodoo to try to get a WinModem working under Linux) and dropped out after a few minutes.
 
Bear in mind that Conexant and Lucent chipsets are very popular (at least in Australia) so don't be surprised if you find your modem has one of those two chipsets.
 
Good luck, and let us know how you went! Smiley
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